if we challenge to have this heard in court do they have to disclose the evidence in advance and would it likely to come to court if they have none?

so where were you, time of day, location etc........ what was the limit, what speed has he asessed you at, and what were you really doing?

[Edited on 19-4-2006 by andyb]

we were just outside bala lake in wales
the speed limit was 30 and we reckon we were doing over this speed but cant confirm as none of us were looking at speedo
it was early afternoon and the road was quiet

and that's it ?
no endos, wheelies, giving the bird as you shot past ?

Take it on then.

the lad who was at the front did indeed pop a small wheelie
but the 2 of us behind did not
we all got the same 3 points and 60 quid fine

go see a solicitor.
can you not get access to one through work or similar ?
at the end of the day you know you were speeding, but if you think there is a bit of wriggle room and want to take it on. Well that's up to you.
no guaranties though. and if you fail you could end up with bigger fine and points tally ?
sounds like it would be worth discussing further though

If there's no corroboration i.e. just him on his own, I don't think they've got a leg to stand on.

You've lost my sympathy mate. No excuses in a 30 IMHO. Especially as one of your group was popping a wheelie, that amounts to antagonisation. Take it on the chin.

How many points do you have on your licence at present? If you've got 9 then I can understand your dilemma, however you've really got to weigh up the stress, hassle and unnerving experience of a day in court. Or as you already know you were speeding, £60 and some points which may or may not affect your insurance premium. The whole idea of the points system is just to put a warning shot over your bow and make you consider your driving/riding. It is at the end of the day a minor road traffic offence, driving without due care and attention or heaven forbid attempting to pervert the course of justice are much more serious. Completely agree with Rushjob in what he says regarding corroboration but at the end of the day its your decision and you don't seem to be too sure of the evidence against you. Those witness boxes are lonely places...

Don't wish to put a downer on things, but a lot of the articles in the press regarding speeding and the ease of which you can get off are written to sell papers and are guilty of a lot of misinformation. If you're going to fight these things you have to know your law or be able to pay someone who does.

Ian

Speeding around Bala, the cop / bike magnet?

Silly boys!

1mph over in N. Wales will get you a ticket. Unless you get the local papers which tell you where the plod will have their mobile speed camera on any given day.

I'm now a reformed character ( Old age ) but my view was always ''Smile nicely and accept the ticket''. Just think of all those times when you've got away with over the ton in a 30 when you've been chasing someone, and be glad you weren't caught that time.

It's up to you of course, but from experience I think Rob is spot on with his ''Lonely place '' comment as the court will normally take the comments of a Police Officer as the whole truth - as in fact they normally are, whether we like it or not.

Phil