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Otei 14-Jul-2006 08:26

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Best impression of a bird of prey

I can do an unladen European Swallow?

wait, that sounds a bit iffy!

On a serious note, what will happen now that the capacity of the Monster has been hiked up to 695?

Obviously the old big bore rules wern't particularly satisfactory due (sic) to the size of the valves in the engine, but things would be different with the new bike.

The thing is, that you'll have to include the new bike, as it is the latest model, and also, the older 620 i.e models will start to get in short supply. Mind you, they're the exact same price as a 695 :confused:

The 695 seems to have been built down to that price though, and only has the cheaper calipers as found on the sport classics, not the ex 916 brakes of the 620 and earlier models. Maybe that weakness, plus the retaining of the standard shock might be enough to negate any power advantage?

Just a thought, wouldn't want to decide to race in the series next year, then get told that the brand new 620 i just bought was going to be immediately outgunned by the 695 that ws now allowed in.

fil2 14-Jul-2006 08:32

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Originally Posted by AK
open class a for national licence holders properly, not just limited to those who have already raced in the series. would open this section up a tad.

keep class b for novice and clubman licence.

and dont make the top 3 in the champ points in 583 'have' to move up? surely they will want to go up of their own accord?

publish that the rules for mech that will definatley not be changed for 2007 NOW to stop any fannying about over the winter. I cant see any reason not to change them.

choose when to start the season by the end of this one and dont change it again

only have rider votes at race meetings if really needed



Gets my vote...

Tonio600 14-Jul-2006 08:37

untimed practice? no way? ok I forget that... :(

fil2 14-Jul-2006 08:39

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Originally Posted by Otei
I can do an unladen European Swallow?

wait, that sounds a bit iffy!

On a serious note, what will happen now that the capacity of the Monster has been hiked up to 695?

Obviously the old big bore rules wern't particularly satisfactory due (sic) to the size of the valves in the engine, but things would be different with the new bike.

The thing is, that you'll have to include the new bike, as it is the latest model, and also, the older 620 i.e models will start to get in short supply. Mind you, they're the exact same price as a 695 :confused:

The 695 seems to have been built down to that price though, and only has the cheaper calipers as found on the sport classics, not the ex 916 brakes of the 620 and earlier models. Maybe that weakness, plus the retaining of the standard shock might be enough to negate any power advantage?

Just a thought, wouldn't want to decide to race in the series next year, then get told that the brand new 620 i just bought was going to be immediately outgunned by the 695 that ws now allowed in.


why do we have to have the 695...??...the 620 offers competative racing and are fast enough for any of us......there are enough bikes in the market place to support spares for a long time yet....plenty of performance parts etc etc....

IF we have a 695 class the only people that will prolly enter it are 620 riders!!..leading to less again in 620.....i cant see anyone who wants to enter the DD saying " im not gonna enter cos there is no 695 "..no of course not.......

Keep it simple 620 OR 583 we struggle enough to get the numbers..let alone if we add a 3rd class.........................

Phil

Otei 14-Jul-2006 08:46

I guess you don't have to have the new bike in the series, and you're right, there'll be plenty of used bikes and spares for use in the series I suppose.

I'm not concerned either way, I just wondered if anyone had any clarification of what the rules were going to be. It's just that I'd have thought the series organisers would want to keep up to date with what is happening machinery wise.

The simpler the better as far as I'm concerned. :)

Tonio600 14-Jul-2006 08:49

The series doesn't need to be kept up to date, there are all other series for that.
DD needs to remain affordable and friendly, that's the most important points.

fil2 14-Jul-2006 09:05

[quote=Otei]I guess you don't have to have the new bike in the . It's just that I'd have thought the series organisers would want to keep up to date with what is happening machinery wise.

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Why would they.?..its our race series .!....the 620 monster is current !...and as Tonio quite rightly said , there are other series to run in if anyone wanted to run a current bike..the 695 is eligble for MT....or SoT

DD ..583 / 620.....affordable..simple...fast..competative...i ts a formula that works..ok we dont get 2 grids but we still field 40 bikes....how many other classes do that...................

we forget at time that we have a succesfull series ..

Phil

Rattler 14-Jul-2006 09:20

Wot he sed !!!

Its our series, and we can decide what bikes we want in it. At the moment I see no need to include 695 bikes in it. This would only dilute the 620 entries.

Tim

Otei 14-Jul-2006 10:46

Errrmmmmm...............

LOOK!..a kitten!



TP 14-Jul-2006 10:54

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Originally Posted by Otei
Errrmmmmm...............

LOOK!..a kitten!




Oh isn't it cute!!

I like kittens :D


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