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DaveB916 23-Aug-2006 21:36

Had similar issues before on a 900SS was an HT cable breaking down under load, finally traced it by spraying water onto leads via a greenfly killer in the garage in the dark and seeing the break down, I know 'how those long winter evenings must fly by', but bl**dy found it eventually !!!

phillc 23-Aug-2006 21:37

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Originally Posted by Jools
Bugggerit...if I'd known they had one of those at the trackday :( :( :(


Yeah, I've just had a little swear too.

My main problem is that I don't have the time to get it to anyone with a diagnostic machine before I'm due to catch the Eurotunnel on Friday evening. So, I'm prepared to try everything I can myself at this stage!

Maybe a diagnostic machine is the only way to go......

phillc 23-Aug-2006 21:40

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Originally Posted by DaveB916
Had similar issues before on a 900SS was an HT cable breaking down under load, finally traced it by spraying water onto leads via a greenfly killer in the garage in the dark and seeing the break down, I know 'how those long winter evenings must fly by', but bl**dy found it eventually !!!


Perhaps I'm being ignorant - very possible - but I don't quite understand. Please excuse me, but what is an "HT cable" and how did spraying water on it in the dark help you to see the break down?

DaveB916 23-Aug-2006 21:45

HT cable is cable that goes on spark plug, you can see it arcing to heads or frame depending where the insulation is breaking down, hence it discharges there and no spark at plug = misfire tends to happen under load and more if damp.

phillc 23-Aug-2006 21:52

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Originally Posted by DaveB916
HT cable is cable that goes on spark plug, you can see it arcing to heads or frame depending where the insulation is breaking down, hence it discharges there and no spark at plug = misfire tends to happen under load and more if damp.


OK, great, now I understand. I'll check the insulation around them tomorrow at least. Thank you

DaveB916 23-Aug-2006 22:02

I know this may sound bizzare but:

If you can take it for a ride in the dark with the side panels off you will see the arcing very easily if the insulation is breaking down, alternatively as a very short cure bind the HT cables with insulating tape, but the tape will also fail soon if the cable is breaking down.

Also had this happening with a Subaru when under full boost, more difficult to see in the dark tho'.....lol

Cheers

phillc 23-Aug-2006 22:06

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Originally Posted by DaveB916
as a very short cure bind the HT cables with insulating tape, but the tape will also fail soon if the cable is breaking down.
Cheers


If it works for 3 days over the weekend in France, I'll be very grateful. So, I'm going to try this anyway.

phillc 24-Aug-2006 07:41

Someone has suggested to me that the problem might be the engine temperature sensor on the front cyclinder. They only knew about Monsters but thought Supersports might be the same. Apparently this sensor can be "fiddled" with to run a richer mixture.

Anyone know more about how to do this? Or if indeed it's worth doing?

phillc 05-Sep-2006 15:28

OK, so I took my bike into the Ducati Proteam and Wimbledon. I needed to get things fixed quickly and I wanted somewhere close to home, so I chose these guys for the first time.

Just been on the phone to them and apparently my "trimmer" was set to -55 which has leaned the mixture right out. They've reset it to -10 (factory setting is 0 I believe) and the bike is running fine.

Can anyone tell me what else a "trimmer" might be called and what it does/how it's set etc???


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