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the phantom pieman 23-Oct-2006 23:40

So what about the fact that Michel was a cheat ....

or does that not count ?

Or is that acceptable gamesmanship ...

Me might have been a great driver but never a great sportsman ...

PS yes, I have met him and he's a nice guy in real life .....

MJS 24-Oct-2006 06:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jools
But apart from that, do you like him? :lol:


As a bloke - yes. As a driver, I agree with the original post, he's a far better driver than I will ever be - anyone at that level is, and Hill was undoubtedly very quick over a single qualifying lap, but he's just not up there with the top drivers - every so often someone comes along who is in a different league to everybody else - Senna, Schumacher... Rossi...

Nobody mentions Kenny Roberts Jr as in the same league as Rossi - but he won a world title, but we're all agreed that Rossi is a genius, and Roberts Jr isn't. Same with Schumacher and Hill IMHO

[quote=philthy]
Damon said he was a brilliant driver but that his winning all the time was bad for the sport. Too right it was. It's become a boring procession which I, my family and many of my friends have stopped watching.
quote]

I think there are two sets of comments by Hill on the BBC website now - no-one can disagree with his statement above, but it's hardly Schumacher or Ferrari's fault for doing a better job than the others - same as it's not Rossi/Yamaha's fault for doing a better job than the others in GP

As for the comments that Schumcher changed what was acceptible in F1 - that's nonsense - Prost and Senna started that in the late 80s when they decided it was ok to take each other out (even as teammates) in order to stop the other one winning...

madmav 24-Oct-2006 08:19

Remember
 
second place is just the "First" looser !

jeff st4s 24-Oct-2006 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmav
he's a real nice man too (fact)
But he is not and has never been 1% the driver Schumi was/is (fact)

thanks for reading

mav


and thats a fact !





Thanks for putting me right with a few facts Mav. :lol: :lol:

Florence 24-Oct-2006 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmav
second place is just the "First" looser !

How profound Mav :eek:

jeff st4s 24-Oct-2006 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by philthy
Don't see what the problem is with his comments that I have just read on BBC News site?

Damon said he was a brilliant driver but that his winning all the time was bad for the sport. Too right it was. It's become a boring procession which I, my family and many of my friends have stopped watching.

If you want real racing watch a Grand Prix race from the seventies or modern bike racing. People actually overtake each other time after time and you get wheel to wheel racing, Wow!



Now then Mav;





That's what I call sticking to the FACTS!!!!! :lol: :lol:

philthy 24-Oct-2006 23:08

I know this has been on here before......but if it was still like this I'd watch every race........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv0_a...arch=f1%201967

Herb 25-Oct-2006 08:21

This was the golden era for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAOTZd27l5w

Jasper 25-Oct-2006 08:37

Gilles Villeneuve was the greatest to me.never won a world championship,died young.Was a true gentleman and sportsman.And boy was he quick!!Now this is RACING:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kre35Pct0yA

The Villeneuve vs Arnoux battle for the last lap in the French grand prix was the best EVER!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz9ZQvT98qc

The Villeneuve vs Arnoux battle for the last lap in the French grand prix was the best EVER!!

cookati 25-Oct-2006 09:49

Good God... that makes yr spine tingle just watchin it... thanks for postin that
link.
Those days were a bit before my time but from what i've heard it was'nt just
the racing that was better but the whole scene... alot of the drivers were real characters... big personalities like Damon's dad Graham and James Hunt etc

i'm pretty sure those drivers never had nutritionists n personal trainers, let alone
driver aids on their awsomely powerfull cars with only a rudimentry understanding of aerodynamics n rubber compounds... they were more like rockstars... Drinkin n fightin n womanisin n then racing the next day...

All alot more dangerous i know but thats the point is'nt it?

Wrightly or wrongly its more exciting to watch poeple taking bigger risks!

Am i romanticising it all?:burn:


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