Hi Ils,

and welcome.

Last year I went from a 996S to a 998Bip.

After a period of acclimatization, I am certain the 998 is better.

Mine came standard with Ohlins rear shock.

With 998 there is less worry of flaking rockers and some other issues affecting the earlier model. There is also vastly more potential for tuning with the 998.

Please pardon me for trying to flog you something, but I have a set of low mileage Termi carbon cans and the appropriate ECU (which ups the rev limiter to 11,200) for sale for a 998 Bip. Everything is in excellent nick. Make me a half sensible offer and they are yours. I will post some pics this evening, in case you have any interest.

Good luck with your choice.

Spinoli

[Edited on 22-4-2005 by spinoli1]

Having owned a 996, 998 and now a 999, if I had to choose between the 996 and 998 I'd always, ALWAYS pick the 998, 996 good as it is is just to lazy and lumpy, the 998 motor spins up far quicker, power is shocking in comparison, plus non of this flaking rocker mallarky

Owned a 996BIP and a 998. No contest the 998 has the more powerful & flexible engine. The brakes are better and the ride is better (my old 996 didn't have nitrided showa forks)

Despite what the fashion victims might think the 998 engine is the same as in the 999, probably better as it isn't being gagged with a cat in the exhaust system.

The 996 models of all types are still a thing of beauty.

I can't tell the difference between nitrided showas and Ohlins Forks.

A 996s will be a great bike to enjoy, just don't test ride a 998!

Ray.

I own a 996S (from new for nearly 4 years) and have test ridden then 998S bip. First of all there is some difference between the models people are talking about 996 bip, 996S, 998 bip & 998S. If you read the models in this order they SHOULD get better from left to right.

996 bip ~116bhp, 996S ~124bhp, 998 bip ~124 bhp (testatretta) & 998S ~132 bhp (testastretta)

Now with this in mind, testing a 996 bip with a 998S gives you a winder margin for sensing the improvement. The 996S/998 bip is more subtle. Apart from the engine, there's not much difference in the 996S/998 bip. I'm not sure if the 998 bip has 4 pad brembos because i did notice a marked improvement in the brakes on the 998S which has got the 4 pad brembos. Did the 998bip have a 45mm exhaust - the 996S has a 50mm throughout.

I do love my bike but i've made it my bike by adding so much to it and will probably never sell it. I have also had no probs with mine (I bought mine new from P&H :) too )

So my choice for either of these models would be on condition, mileage, service history and price - whatever comes out best from these criteria then buy that.

998 cans & ecu pics as promised

Thanks for all the advice & encouragement guys, but Redrocket 996 has picked this thread from mid-July of 2004.. The bike is blinking fantastic! I have added an oversize clutch slave cylinder, uprated clutch & changed sprocket sizes (both courtesy of Nelly at Cornerspeed).
Spinoli1 - thanks for the offer mate, but I already have 50mm Termis that shake our bedroom windows when the bike is idling!! - (wife & neighbours not happy) - I'm currently looking for some db eaters to get her through the looming mot.
No problems with her yet at all (996S, not the wife) - although I'll be keeping my fingers crossed when the 12000 mile service comes up in August for flaky rockers.
-illya.

August is too long to wait!!!!

Sell something else to fund it, a lung perhaps!! ;) and go get a 998S - you won't regret it.

Now if you sell a lung and a kidney you might be able to stretch to a 996R or 998R - now you're talking!!!!

Whatever you get - enjoy!!
Tim

Ils,

No worries - I'll put them on ebay when I sort out a paypal account.

You won't be dissappointed with the 6S - and I think you'll get an 11K rev limit as standard (I'm sure mine did). Best value ever mod - lower the gearing - 1 tooth off the front will cost you £15 and make the bike much easier to use.

DB eaters for 50mm cans - from AA16 Road Race - £28.00 a pair plus VAT.

I had to mod mine a little, to get the spout angle correct.

They still sound good, but take away the "I could hear your all the way from Scotland" edge. One of mine even came with a British Standard approval number!

If you can't find them, give me a U2U and I'll look up the Website.

Spinoli

Spinoli1,
That sounds like a good deal - I've looked at the other links for db eaters from e-bay but it's mainly a German company & I can't understand the text.
I can't find any site for AA16 Road Race - any chance of a link?
Cheers, illya.

Here you go Ilya,

http://www.aa16.co.uk/

Spinoli