How would the charges be calculated.As an old fogey I really don't want to be paying the same as some of you youngsters.At the miment I'm paying approx £200 fully comp on the Multistrada & £94 fully comp on the Deauville. I'm sure the system you suggest would cost me at least that( probabley more) for just third party

Don't bother with a plate AFAIK it's only a £30 fine and no points.

If you get caught too many times you can get done for a more serious offence.

The Halfrauds staff I have dealt with a few times have no idea and I have got plates made on two occasions without the proper paperwork.

The prob now is that yer local hodlum doesn't bother to buy plates they just nick 'em off another vehicle.

That way they stay invisible to speed cameras and other technology the Police are getting more and more reliant on.

Scrap tax discs, put the tax on fuel try dodging road tax then.

As for insurance get the ins. companies to issue a disc rather than a certificate.

Rather than whinge on here about daft laws write to your local MP. They are pretty much duty bound to reply and they need a wake up call in their Ivory towers aftert the latest Junket you have paid for.

Ray

The system is based on the engine capacity and what state you are in but the government has deregulated it after it's introduction because they were effectively price fixing it.

The system works well and the idea behind the third party insurance is that it follows the registration and becomes a cost viewed in the same way as MOT for a car here - it's an assett sold with the vehicle. You could cash it in but you would effectively be taking your vehicle off the road (SORN style) and it would be less attractive to potential purchasers.

The car you bought to replace it would have insurance as well so it's a roundabout. A good system if you ask me.

This happened to a guy I know about 10 years ago. He bought a car out of one of the boy racer magazines, a really nice black Escort RS Turbo. Lovely it was, only a couple of years old, a few nice mods and was pretty quick.

One morning as he got into his car he was rushed by a dozen policemen, many of them armed, and dragged off to the cells.

It eventually turned out that some robbers up north had copied the plates from the registration shown in the advert and put them on a nicked car which was exactly the same - they then went and did an armed robbery in it!

Suffice to say he had a hard time proving his innocence until his workmates verified that he had been there all day at the time of the robbery.

so that means as a rider with over 40 years experiance I would be paying the same as someone who passed their test yesterday.I hardly think that is right.I still feel that the need to display an insurance disc would work just as well and still give us the right to shop around.Can't you just imagine Gordon Browns delight if he had the chance to set the insurance rate for every vechile in the country. It would make the fuel tax & council tax seem cheap

Well, maybe I'm not the best person in the world to explain this but the government doesn't set the price, insurance companies do. The insurance component is quite cheap and you have a choice of insurers.

Interestingly enough, in Aus we have council rates which is similar to council tax here the only difference being who pays it. If you rent a house it is the responsibility of the house owner to pay rates, not the tenant. So I pay council tax for my rented house in Twickenham and council rates for the house I own in Brisbane.

The insurance rate might be quite cheap in Aus but remember this is rip off Britain. If the government are going to loose the income from road tax they are going to be putting it on something else. I'm still not clear if everybody would pay the same ammount or whether it would vary according to experiance.Personally I still feel the method used in Eire would be much simpler and fairer.

This has got to be the most ridiculous idea any of those **** heads has ever came up with. Does it stop someone cloning plates? No it doesn't. Plates that are not road legal can be made up with no ID required. Does the Gatso know that it has taken a picture of a plate 2mm narrower than your legal plate? No it doesn't. Does the eyewitness to the robbery or accident note the size of plate or font? No they don't. Does the law abiding citizen trying to get a number plate get ****ed about by ridiculously stupid, ineffective, poorly thought out legislation that no doubt cost the taxpayer several hundred thousand pounds to have dreamed up, administrated and enforced? Yes they flaming well do! :mad: Should the buffoon that came up with this idea be hung drawn and quartered and fed to the pigs? Damn right they should! And before that they should have their number plates nicked when on the start of their caravan holiday 500 miles from home. Scumbags.

Can you get UK legal plates made up without the need for ID? Yes, get them in Northern Ireland or the Isle of Man in person or online.:mad::mad:

Yes this subject does annoy me a little. :frog:

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i iknow your feelings all too well

cant argue with the service i got from malplates, delivered in 48hours, yeah it maybe slightly illegal but its a plate

why are those of you who want a legal plate made looking at the i.o.m or n.ireland surely your just as well to take your documents to your local dealer and get it made up

The inconveniance of having to find the time to get to the dealers

Fair enough take the right docs with you to Halfords or wherever. I went for a plate knowing you needed your V5 and some ID so off I go with my V5, driving licence, credit cards and my Army ID. Proof of ownership, address, signature and photo ID. Was it acceptable, no it flippin wasn't. Off I go home to get a bank statement for proof of address so the spotty little oik behind the counter can see my finances. Have to bring a passport as my Army ID is no good, obviously fake passports don't happen do they. If I had had one of those photo driving licences that would have done too but why should I pay for a new licence when there is nothing wrong with my old paper one. No-one likes this legislation except the berks who came up with it in the first place. If anyone thinks that it makes a blind bit of difference to criminals at all they want their head examining and a good dose of common sense beaten into them. I need to lie down before I burst an artery.

If you don't have a photo style driving licence or a passport then what is the alternative to getting plates on line or from outside mailand UK?

Oh and another point to remember, if you get a non legal plate from MAL for your car just because you dont want to supply all the correct documents to Halfrauds etc then chances are it will fail its next MOT. Our car failed becasue the BS number was missing from the plate! Thats the only thing it failed on. We just blu tacked the original plates over the top and took it back. Passed no problem.

blu tack

now were gettign technical

i used a rear view mirror sticker to hold my homemade plate in place