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dickieducati 28-Jan-2005 11:20

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Originally posted by fil2
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Originally posted by antonye
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Originally posted by dickieducati
you 'fairing' guys make me chuckle.

Not half as much as I'll laugh as your 5-grand bike does a barrel roll on the first corner :lol:

Very funny...............LOL.....:lol:

nice to see the 'friendly club enviroment' is coming to the fore

antonye 28-Jan-2005 11:21

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Originally posted by weeksy
The point is mate, it doesn't have to be an SS specific fairing.... admittedly if you do want that one, the supply/demand curve obviously comes into play.... spirit of free enterprise and all that....


I'd rather try and keep it original to be honest, hence going for the Brancato stuff.

I'm sure Kev will be able to get a Superbike fairing on there, but I'm not Kev and I may well end up buying a 200 quid set of fairing only to bodge it completely and end up wasting that money - in which case buying something that is going to fit on without hassle is a better option.

I wouldn't know where to start looking for a fairing that will fit the 600ss dimensions - can you list one off the top of your head that you know will fit with little modification? There's also the catch tray to worry about and without buying something, how am I supposed to know what will fit?

Admittedly I could measure everything and go to a dealer armed with a tape measure, but these aren't the kind of items that are on display but are more likely to be purchased mail order. The same with going to a bike show - not many places will have them on site and it's not worth the hassle to keep pulling boxes open just for someone to measure up a fairing.

Yes, you can buy cheaper fairing. Yes, you probably could get it to fit. No, it won't look like an SS and No, I can't be arsed with the hassle ;)

fil2 28-Jan-2005 11:26

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Originally posted by dickieducati
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Originally posted by fil2
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Originally posted by antonye
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Originally posted by dickieducati
you 'fairing' guys make me chuckle.

Not half as much as I'll laugh as your 5-grand bike does a barrel roll on the first corner :lol:

Very funny...............LOL.....:lol:

nice to see the 'friendly club enviroment' is coming to the fore

Not meant in a malicious way at all....was just a funny quip.. the Due serious is already showing how the club pulls together with all the posts for assistance the meeting up for the ACU day etc etc.

Chill....

If any1 is gonna bin it, it will be Checa

Phil


[Edited on 28-1-2005 by fil2]

TP 28-Jan-2005 11:28

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Originally posted by fil2
Not meant in a malicious way at all....was just a funny quip.. the Due serious is already showing how the club pulls together with all the posts for assistance the meeting up for the ACU day etc etc.

Chill....

If any1 is gonna bin it, it will be Checa

Phil
Phil

It's alright mate, Dickie is just having a laugh as well.

And he deserves to have the urine extracted after buying a brand new bike!!!

fil2 28-Jan-2005 11:29

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Originally posted by antonye
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Originally posted by weeksy
The point is mate, it doesn't have to be an SS specific fairing.... admittedly if you do want that one, the supply/demand curve obviously comes into play.... spirit of free enterprise and all that....


I'd rather try and keep it original to be honest, hence going for the Brancato stuff.

I'm sure Kev will be able to get a Superbike fairing on there, but I'm not Kev and I may well end up buying a 200 quid set of fairing only to bodge it completely and end up wasting that money - in which case buying something that is going to fit on without hassle is a better option.

I wouldn't know where to start looking for a fairing that will fit the 600ss dimensions - can you list one off the top of your head that you know will fit with little modification? There's also the catch tray to worry about and without buying something, how am I supposed to know what will fit?

Admittedly I could measure everything and go to a dealer armed with a tape measure, but these aren't the kind of items that are on display but are more likely to be purchased mail order. The same with going to a bike show - not many places will have them on site and it's not worth the hassle to keep pulling boxes open just for someone to measure up a fairing.

Yes, you can buy cheaper fairing. Yes, you probably could get it to fit. No, it won't look like an SS and No, I can't be arsed with the hassle ;)

Point well made.

Aint we got enough to do ..LOL..like actually riding the buggers....

Phil

paynep 28-Jan-2005 11:40

Unfortunately the old office maxim of "an ounce of image is worth a pound of performance" doesn't apply when the red lights go out.......................:lol:

antonye 28-Jan-2005 11:51

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Originally posted by paynep
Unfortunately the old office maxim of "an ounce of image is worth a pound of performance" doesn't apply when the red lights go out.......................:lol:

"If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right" is also a good one.

paynep 28-Jan-2005 17:03

Well at least it looks like its killed this thread!

JPM 28-Jan-2005 17:12

Only read a small bit of this thread, but can you not all club together buy one kit and ship it to Barry (or a.n.other) who would probably do a mould of it as long as it was financially viable for him, and knock out kits for everyone else?

antonye 28-Jan-2005 17:15

Oh, I'm sorry - I was still waiting for someone to show me where to buy a 600ss fairing at a much cheaper price!

TP 28-Jan-2005 17:25

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Originally posted by weeksy
"when the flag drops, the bullshit stops :)"

i'll have that as mine for today.

What about:

"A rolling stone has too many chefs" ???

"A rolling stone takes too many drugs"??

:lol:

domski 28-Jan-2005 19:43

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Originally posted by antonye
Oh, I'm sorry - I was still waiting for someone to show me where to buy a 600ss fairing at a much cheaper price!

Here look...

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Originally posted by skidlids
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Originally posted by DrA
"...as for comparisons a ARD Ducati fairing is £175


I know Kev says it's a further £60 for paint, and £70 for a catch tray or whatever, but thats daft.

Buy a fairing, make a tray, it's not rocket science, but it is a race bike... Under £180.

That's what I'd do, and I'm not an engineer, but I have raced, and I have chucked expensive things down the road, and I have had to replace it.

Notice Kev E, who has been racing a long time, hasn't gone out and bought a new bike, noooo... Cheap is good you see, he is not stupid!

You can argue all day about quality and price and all that stuff, but at the end of the day, if you are doing this on a budget, then you have to buy stuff that will 'do the job' and not neccessarily look a million dollars.

It's common sense over looking good expense.

As for fairings at places like Snetterton. My old duelling partner chris Firmin soon fitted a GSXR fairing to his SV650 in the Minitwins, after loosing out to Ryan Harris (I think) who had already fitted a fairing - So it will make a diff.

Although I still think that if you put the best rider on the slowest bike - He would still win.

Incidently DrA - I work bloody hard, over 60 hours a week, and take home under £250 a week as a LGV Driver, I know what hard work is, so before you have a personal dig, do some research.

If you read what I have read, I haven't once said your product is crap. I've never seen it (you could update you website of course - I know a webmaster!). Also, my comments weren't personal as I've never met you!!

Rant over :bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:

[Edited on 28-1-2005 by domskidue]

[Edited on 28-1-2005 by domskidue]

domski 28-Jan-2005 19:46

Oh, just thought I better ask if I'm allowed to have an opinion?

antonye 28-Jan-2005 20:43

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Originally posted by domskidue
Oh, just thought I better ask if I'm allowed to have an opinion?

Of course, but you couldn't have missed my point by further if you'd have tried!

skidlids 28-Jan-2005 20:46

that is part of the problem Dom we have experience on our side, but the idea of this race series was to give club members with no experience of racing a chance to try their hand in it by getting in at the shallow end. With bikes that they can afford and that aren't going to scare the living daylights out of them.
As you well know there are pleanty of obstacles in the way of going racing, for some it is money (I think you understand that one well) for others it is a lack of spare time, others its simply a lack of room to do work and for others its a short fall in technical ability.
Now the first reason I gave its not possible to buy your way out of but the other obstacles can be sorted by cash.
Hence those who decide to go racing set a budget according to their means and providing they stick to that budget and make it to the grid then does it really matter how they got there, providing its legal (and I know where this has not been the case).

So its great that there are a huge range of suppliers out there that can cater for all.

TP 28-Jan-2005 20:53

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Originally posted by skidlids
that is part of the problem Dom we have experience on our side, but the idea of this race series was to give club members with no experience of racing a chance to try their hand in it by getting in at the shallow end. With bikes that they can afford and that aren't going to scare the living daylights out of them.
As you well know there are pleanty of obstacles in the way of going racing, for some it is money (I think you understand that one well) for others it is a lack of spare time, others its simply a lack of room to do work and for others its a short fall in technical ability.
Now the first reason I gave its not possible to buy your way out of but the other obstacles can be sorted by cash.
Hence those who decide to go racing set a budget according to their means and providing they stick to that budget and make it to the grid then does it really matter how they got there, providing its legal (and I know where this has not been the case).

So its great that there are a huge range of suppliers out there that can cater for all.

Well said Kev.

Are we done now?

:frog:

domski 28-Jan-2005 20:56

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Originally posted by skidlids
that is part of the problem Dom we have experience on our side, but the idea of this race series was to give club members with no experience of racing a chance to try their hand in it by getting in at the shallow end. With bikes that they can afford and that aren't going to scare the living daylights out of them.
As you well know there are pleanty of obstacles in the way of going racing, for some it is money (I think you understand that one well) for others it is a lack of spare time, others its simply a lack of room to do work and for others its a short fall in technical ability.
Now the first reason I gave its not possible to buy your way out of but the other obstacles can be sorted by cash.
Hence those who decide to go racing set a budget according to their means and providing they stick to that budget and make it to the grid then does it really matter how they got there, providing its legal (and I know where this has not been the case).

So its great that there are a huge range of suppliers out there that can cater for all.

I don't know why I didn't just say that in the first place!

Like I said above, I wasn't having a dig at anyone, or saying that Brancato was rubbish, just that there are other suppliers out there, so don't get suckered in to spending a fortune just coz you know no different.

Phew, took a while, but I think we finally got there :)

domski 28-Jan-2005 20:57

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Originally posted by antonye
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Originally posted by domskidue
Oh, just thought I better ask if I'm allowed to have an opinion?

Of course, but you couldn't have missed my point by further if you'd have tried!

What was your point?

I thought you asked if someone could show you where you could buy a cheaper fairing?

antonye 28-Jan-2005 22:26

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Originally posted by antonye
Oh, I'm sorry - I was still waiting for someone to show me where to buy a 600ss fairing at a much cheaper price!

There you go - all links to websites or telephone numbers will be gratefully accepted!

Senna3 28-Jan-2005 22:59

ive brought tony brancatos farings so whot if there dearer than thoses cheapys you can buy . ive worked extra hours and wheeled and dealed to get the money to buy them .i could fit any old crap on to my 600ss thats not a problem i chose tonys because there quilty and they fit straight on to the orignal mounts my choice. im no fast rider but im going to give it my best shot , so whot if i bin it there fiberglass there repairible if there that badly broke they cant be fixed then the rest of it whont be either so no problem throw the lot away end of job

domski 28-Jan-2005 23:10

Here you go then... CHEAPER BODYWORK

£440 for FULL BODYWORK and SEAT UNIT including postage from Australia!!!!!

...AND you can have it coloured for just £80.

£974 for a full set in Carbon Fibre!!

Hmmm.

Guess you're right antonye, you can only save around £100 if you buy the bodykit from Australia.

[Edited on 28-1-2005 by domskidue]

antonye 28-Jan-2005 23:22

Hey, well spotted!

For a set of coloured race fairings with seat unit and international shipping, it comes out at AUS$ 1,265.86

Using xe.com it works out AUS$1,265.86 = £519.37

But don't forget that you're likely to get stung import duty on this (20%?) PLUS VAT on top, so you're talking more like £730 quid to your door ... then what happens if it's broken?!?!

It's just that SS stuff is very, very rare.

domski 28-Jan-2005 23:29

You said...

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show me where to buy a 600ss fairing at a much cheaper price!

...so I did.

You didn't say it had to arrive :P

paynep 29-Jan-2005 00:22

I've already mailed Oz asking for confirmed prices, delivery times etc................no reply as of yet....................

Guess it may be cos they're upside down?

Still, its only 3 months to Race 1, so what's the problem...........

skidlids 29-Jan-2005 00:33

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Originally posted by paynep
Still, its only 3 months to Race 1, so what's the problem...........

Obviously you didn't see my post before Xmas about waiting 4 months for a shoe boxed size parcel to arrive from Aus.

No problem I can see Paul but don't expect us to wait around on the grid for you while you wait for it to arrive :lol:

Jon 29-Jan-2005 00:50

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Originally posted by antonye
Hey, well spotted!

For a set of coloured race fairings with seat unit and international shipping, it comes out at AUS$ 1,265.86

Using xe.com it works out AUS$1,265.86 = £519.37

But don't forget that you're likely to get stung import duty on this (20%?) PLUS VAT on top, so you're talking more like £730 quid to your door ... then what happens if it's broken?!?!

It's just that SS stuff is very, very rare.


Don't forget C&E admin charges Antonye

TP 29-Jan-2005 11:08

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Originally posted by paynep
I've already mailed Oz asking for confirmed prices, delivery times etc................no reply as of yet....................

Guess it may be cos they're upside down?


Oi! Watch it!

dickieducati 29-Jan-2005 11:20

or just cos they're all muppets! ;)

i've got some of the stuff from racersden for my 999 not particulalrly cheap but does look good quality. happy for anyone to come round and look to compare with other stuff they may have looked at. it did take ages though 2 month maybe? but i think i was waiting for mine to be made as it was a new line.

skidlids 29-Jan-2005 16:33

Two months thats quick, last stuff I had from Aus took 4 months and that was using Buy it now on Ebay so was ready to be sent.

KeefyB 30-Jan-2005 07:51

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Originally posted by antonye
I wouldn't know where to start looking for a fairing that will fit the 600ss dimensions - can you list one off the top of your head that you know will fit with little modification? There's also the catch tray to worry about and without buying something, how am I supposed to know what will fit?
Think of Jap supersport 400's.I raced a 900SS some years ago and found the Kawasaki KR1S fairing fitted a treat.Yup a little cutting and drilling involved,but nowt that could'nt be sorted in your own garage.
Mind you they are probably all obsolete now...
I'll get my coat.:lol:

DrA 30-Jan-2005 11:06

Thanks all you people who phoned/turned up to tell me not to sulk, but it's hard not to be upset, when someone seemingly has a dig at your business.

Perhaps it should be explained that purchasing panels(or parts) from a UK based supplies has a few advantages, over OZ or wherever.

Firstly, you can phone or visit if there's any problems, you know the final price in advance, no getting stung for importduty etc.
Panels are bulky and fragile, so when they come from afar, not only does it cost lots, but ponentially could arrive as a jugsaw puzzle!.

At Classic panels (Brancato Eng's composite co), you can also have a sort of 'aftercare service'.
That is; that in the event of a crash, not only can you buy just one side, or the centre bit, but even willing to place damaged panel back into the mould and repair it at a very small cost, this is, obviously provided that you're not asking for a carrier bag of grp bits to made into a new panel.

For those on a budget why not just purchase the centre bit (no headlamp hole) and use the existing fairing sides? it's £65, you can have red or yellow at no extra cost, plus you can even specify a white race number backgroung at no extra cost too.

I hope all this is of use, if not sorry!


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