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cmoss 21-Mar-2005 17:50

Today made up the mounting brackets, rubber mounts under each mounting. Just needed to drill extra hole in headlight shell.

[Edited on 21-3-2005 by cmoss]

yeti 21-Mar-2005 17:51

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Originally posted by cmoss
Was thinking the same Yeti.

[Edited on 20-3-2005 by cmoss]

Not sure what you meant with the images C, can you expalin?

cmoss 21-Mar-2005 17:56

Now fitted the Dash, place well back so Brembo's don't touch on full lock, also will help with the bright light.
Now just need to mount the indicator/Petrol module, I have cut it away from Speedo housing. Need to do a bit of work with this.

How can I post multiple images ?



[Edited on 21-3-2005 by cmoss]

cmoss 21-Mar-2005 18:07

The Indicator/petrol module will fit underneath the dash, the wiring harness is just long enough.

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yeti 21-Mar-2005 19:03

C, what is the small round box with the red LED? Also have you remembered to take a pick up for the low oil pressure warning light that's normally in the tacho?

Simon Reed 21-Mar-2005 19:12

it's an led, for is meta alarm !!!!

:puzzled:

cmoss 21-Mar-2005 20:17

Yes the small round plastic bit is the warning led for alarm. The Dash has a oil pressure wire which links to the oil pressure sensor from the Ducati original, so all should be taken care of.

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yeti 22-Mar-2005 18:46

Yopu sorted out which wire supplies the feed to the oil pressure warning yet C?

cmoss 23-Mar-2005 17:03

Hi All further update, now fitted the indicator module, all ok so far :D now this week start to wire up the main conections then work on the speed sensor fittment.
Yeti most of the connections are straight forward and can be picked from the connections in the headlight shell with the looks of things, will double check with the old Haynes manual thou.

[Edited on 23-3-2005 by cmoss]

chris99 24-Mar-2005 15:31

Its looking nice matey. I would love one of those but it looks like it may be a bit complicated for me

Felix 24-Mar-2005 15:47

Chris, you're near Hull from you profile. I know a man who can fit it for you.

chris99 24-Mar-2005 16:44

REALLY?!?!?!?! Do other real people live in this area? Any ideas on price?

cmoss 26-Mar-2005 16:49

Hi All further update, had time at work to complete the wiring loom change. Used the original Ducati Tacho/temp loom to pickup the necessary 12+v switched, Negative, Oil pressure and Tacho. Just cut off and left about 3 inches of original then soldered to Translogic loom and put sheath over it. Top job :)

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cmoss 26-Mar-2005 16:51

Now to turn on and test :rolleye: All seams ok unit goes through test pattern, now just to make rear speed sensor bracket and fit. Then to calibrate. :smug:

[Edited on 26-3-2005 by cmoss]

adam 26-Mar-2005 18:40

that does look the biznis. Remember to keep your eyes on the road, dont go stary eyed admiring it at speed.;)

yeti 28-Mar-2005 21:28

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Originally posted by cmoss
now just to make rear speed sensor bracket and fit.

CMOSS, if you can wait a few days, I intend to make a bracket to fit the speed sensor to the rear brake caliper bracket. I'll keep you posted on progress/success and if ok am happy to make you one too.

cmoss 28-Mar-2005 23:35

Hi Yeti, I made a bracket out of some stainless today, but a little flimsy needed next guage up. Will try this one tomorrow, but yours will probably be a little better. I made a long 90 degree off the inner pinch bolt and mounted the Techtronic speed sensor to this on the underneath to pickup the disc bolt. Just flex's a bit. Need to take the bike out to try.
Have you found a good mounting point fo the temp sensor ? being a V twin no pickup point in middle, can't understand why they didn't use the original temp sensor signal all be it from the coolant, most bikes now have this as standard.

We have a big range of proxi sensors at work if this is no good will borrow one to try, they have a threaded shaft to adjust pickup distance.
Just the calibration to sort.

keefer 28-Mar-2005 23:46

quality that's really coming along, very good thread
gona have to look at getting one of those when I sell my wheels,
keep up the good work and info

Whele 05-Apr-2005 21:23

I finally finished fitting mine this weekend.

I fitted the temperature sensor to the bottom M6 bolt of the injector housing at the head. It works fine, gives a similar reading to the original water temperature albeit a little slower in responding at heat-up.

The biggest problem I had was finding a suitable pick-up for the rev counter. Eventually I took it off the black wire from the low tension on the right hand coil.

Fitted my speed sensor to the front wheel, utilising the lower mudguard mounting. Works well with all the spare wheels too.

I calibrated it out on the road; I fitted the old rev counter for set up purposes and calibrated the revs and gearing, then followed another bike at 30mph to calibrate the speed.

Works great, it appears the gear display works out mph pre rev to determine which gear is being used, the only problem comes when changing the final drive gearing, I guess the unit will require recalibrating.

I’ll post some pictures later.

cmoss 06-Apr-2005 11:09

Hi Whele, at what point ie temp does the temp start to display, mine at moment only reads at 40 C. Booked mine it for calibration at Dynojet UK.

Whele 06-Apr-2005 14:59

Yes it starts to display at 40°C, but it does lag behind the water temerature gauge. When the water temperature is reading 80°C, the translogic unit is still displaying 55°C. However, once the mass of metal has heated-up, it reads very close (ie +or - 4°C)

Calibration on the road is quiet easy, as long as you have the original rev counter plugged in, and another bike to follow.

Felix 06-Apr-2005 16:17

Why do have to calibrate the revs? Doesn't it just count ignition pulses based on the number of cylinders?

Also, if you want a better temperature pickup, take one of the small triangular covers off the side of one of the heads and drill it for the temp sensor. That's were the race bikes measure temperature at. It's very responsive as it measures directly the water temperature of the head. See items 11 or 21 below:


Whele 06-Apr-2005 20:20

It’s a bit strange really, I expected to pick-up the low tension ignition and then instruct the unit that it was a twin (or four) cylinder. But, there is no provision for that. Instead you have to work out at what revs you want the red lights to illuminate, then rev the engine to half of that value and press the programme button. Thus it calibrates the rev scale to read this value at half full-scale deflection.

I set mine to 10,000 rpm, since occasionally in the lower gears there is some time lag from hitting that value and changing gear, but it does mean that the rev scale is now 0 to 10,000rpm. In practice it works well with the quickshifter, good fast changes at a consistent rpm value using the very bright change lights.

The temp pick-up appears to be a simple thermocouple device; I may change the lead and set it up in a water channel or even to measure oil temperature at the pump as it appears to read in excess of 300°C.

As a slight aside, before calibrating the speed, it did ride the first few miles at between 430 and 525 mph!! :D

cmoss 06-Apr-2005 21:35

That's my problem allready removed original guages, and don't trust my mates to stick at 30mph. "Yes officer my speedo reads 30mph", "But the vascar shows 55mph" !!!!:lol:
Perhaps the next version of the dash will be able to choose what type of inputs and from where.

Felix 06-Apr-2005 21:51

Must admit, seems a bit braindead. Glad I waited, think I'll go for one of these:


yeti 08-Apr-2005 11:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Felix
Must admit, seems a bit braindead. Glad I waited, think I'll go for one of these:


Thats an impressive looking piece of kit felix, bet it cost a good bit more than the TL one tho!!

Good advice about the temp pick up, that's where I'll be fitting mine - if ever I get the time to fit it that is............

Whele 13-Apr-2005 12:56

Felix - You get what you pay for really, sure there is better kit available but TBH I'm not interested in downloading to PC, recording suspension travel or something that I need to consult the instruction book each time I want to use it or employ a mechanic to fit and set up.

The Translogic is simple to use, offers basic revs, speed, battery voltage, oil pressure and engine temp and combines an easy to use lap timer. I race the bike, if I crash and burn, the unit isonly £300 not £1500 to replace.

In use on the track the Translogic kit works great, big red lamps telling you when to change gear, and it all starts flashing if oil pressure fails or voltage drops below 11v. The lap timer records 100 laps, and it’s easy to replay the laps when you get back into the pits, and easy to reset the timer. Everything I want really.

UPDATE

Whele smashes Snetterton lap record using Translogic……………well that’s what I thought 54.062 seconds. BSB guys are lapping in 1:08.

After drinking the champagne I checked the lap timer against a stopwatch 54 seconds on Translogic = 1:14 on stopwatch. So its back to the factory for it to have the real time clock reprogrammed.

Quality control?????

cmoss 13-Apr-2005 13:25

Hi All, got my 996 back today from F W Developments in Garstang, Race dash calibrated and engine re-map all running well and a couple of more horses to boot :bouncy:

Felix 13-Apr-2005 18:12

Whele, certainly didn't mean to belittle your choice. I'm not going to buy either one, as I have one under development...;)


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