by getting no points is that really penalised.?..

not agreeing or disagreeing at the moment just unsure how if you have entered in the last round or so wether you get points or not would make a difference to your aspirations for next year.?



[Edited on 13-9-2005 by fil2]

for me if i entered the last race with a plan to doing it next year i would be well chuffed to get some points, and get on the league table. how about you?

not sure dickie............im in two minds..yes i guess it would be good to see a quantifiable result in black and white....but on the other hand if it meant i pushed lets say YOU out of the top 10 which you have tried to attain all year..then no i guess i would rather not have the points.


its a tuff one............
:puzzled::puzzled:

It's difficult to say "they're faster than me..." isn't it? And because there is no world champion within us, I think that sentence is valid for each of us.

Everybody agrees that the rules are not very fair this year, there's nothing new. We already did 5 meetings like this, so why changing that now? Let's finish this first racing season with its small bugs and let's trust the racing comitte for next year instead of asking patches after every meetings.

We should better welcome new riders instead of preventing them to have fun tasting DD. I don't know you but for me a race without standing is not a race...

Of course you can add or change rules, the shape of the series could not really be accurately anticipated at the start of the season, so you need rules that apply then and should have the flexibility to add or change rules later in the year.

But if a rule needs to be changed or added (680 big bore!!!) then it should be. - or have I missed your point?

Tim

tim, no you may be right. to be honest im like phil, not really sure whats best.

to reply to phil. were i pushed out of a top ten spot by a newcomer in the last race ? i honestly think i would take it on the chin and accept it. i would nt be happy, more with my performance than anything else.

i guess i kind of am in that position. i could get a top 20 place (yeah i know its not much to some) but could well be pushed out of it by newcomers. so be it i recon.

honestly dont know whats fair though. i'll just duck out now. :saint:

Just spoken to Adam (T5mission) and he says he doesnt give a monkeys about the points.
He just wants to be out there with a load of likeminded ducati fans pushing his limits.
So that leaves Hawk if isnt fussed about points either. problem solved.:eureka:
glyn

Hi folks,

As glyn said I not really bothered about points at Cadwell or the next season, mainly because after my trackday at Cadwell last week I don't expect to get any unless Demo Due are planning to give points for most impressive crash.

I really just want to get back on the track for a giggle and the social life you just don't get with the car racing.

Adam.

Adam, you can have some of Fil2's points... say, 26 of them?

ok ok, back on topic. I see both sides of the arguement here, but still of the opinion that points be available to anyone on the grid meeting the entry requirements. It's a close call tho.

cheers Nick:D

so when I win both races at Cadwell - you can all give me a snog - eh chaps?:D:D:D

C:smug:

r u racing at cads then.?

:lol::lol::lol:

is the moon made of cheese?:P

do I have a Ducati?:puzzled: - oh yes, I do!:o

:P

Surely you can't keep it secret for any longer charlotte... aren't you just busting to tell us? :cool:

careful with the play on words Nick!:P:devil:

still none the wiser lol..............

oh well.....if you are fair play u will love it..if not then ermmmmmmm then your not ..LOL

Phil

Ok to sum up the answer to my original question

The definition of a Guest rider is one invited to ride but isn't a DSC member but ideally a member of the motorcycle press.

Scoring riders are anybody who fancies racing in DD and joins the DSC at any point before they race

And how things change
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/xm...8392#pid166916
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"what the rules on 'guesting' ?"

Skids,

In that case "he whose name is not mentioned anymore", was trying to blag a one off race and was not committing or registering for the series in 2005 or 2006. In the end is was as usual a complete blast of hot air and came to nothing.

Thus it would have been unfair for him to take points off the other riders.

I am not aware of anyone who is entered at Cadwell who has not signed up for 2006. Ok maybe it is a close call, but we have a growing core of people committed to the series and it is going to be bigger next year.

I do agree with some of the foregoing comments, but it is difficult legislate for every eventuality.

the one difference there, and its important, is that weeksy was only going to ride the one round.

if I joined for the last round, and won or top 3, then I would expect a trophy, but points dont matter....would that be acceptable?

if you join the last round and win or get a podium. you can have my points too. :D

hypothetical dear boy....

Kev, I don't thinks its as big an issue as you make out.

I'm not riding at Cadwell, so you've already gained one position.

And what's to say you don't beat Hawk and T5mission anyway?

Tetol is in front of you in the championship and he isn't riding.

I'm next in line and I'm not riding.

AntonyE is fighting his way to the back :lol:

Dave Reilly isn't riding.

If you finish 16th twice, you could jump 4 places.

...and what's to say there could be a few crashes or mechanicals (hope not) but you know what I mean.

Your whole arguement won't mean anything if you're caught by the hair police anyway :lol:

Chin up mate ;)

[Edited on 13-9-2005 by domski]

:lol::lol: you really are value for money Dom:lol:

luv yoo!:devil:

Skids - Andy wont be there either, so thats another place gorn:)

Why is it that...

When I race - so does EVERYONE else!

When I decide to do minitwins - I should have done SoT.

When I don't ride at Cadwell - neither does anyone else!

When Skids does minitwins - he gets a trophy - and I do SoT :lol:

If anyone wants me to pick 6 wrong numbers for the lottery, emails to the usual address...

Strange that as the post wasn't all about me, but as youpoint out there will be less people there to finish in front of me they will also not be finishing in front of anybody else either so that is not going to really affect my position in the championship differently to those that are around me.
What it could have done is allow those that would normally finish 26th to 29th with out any points gain some valuable points, but if riders are coming in to replace some of them then it could be that riders who quallified for and took part in the whole of the 2005 series may still have to go without some extra points to add to there tally.

Come september next year with the way things are going we will probably have 2007 entrants taking part in the last 2 rounds of the championship, thats 4 races and a fair few points.

And Dom when I lined up for the Mini-Twins final at Pembrey I wasn't expecting you to be just one row ahead of me on the grid, if you could pick me 43 wrong lottery numbers that would be handy.

Thank you. At least I'll finish above you at the end of the season and that's the main thing ;)

I need to borrow your excuse book to help out with my results though...

skids - you got the trophy dude, thats all that counts!! :burn:

So much BS spoken on here particularly DD...ignore it and carry on as you are! :cool:

Nun needed from you it's so obvious from track side what’s happening to you.

All you need is a bike that actually speeds up coming out of the corners, and the job’s a good’en.

:lol:

Phew...I've just finished trawling through this lot...although I did need to start "skip-reading" towards the end so that I could finish by tea-time!!!!

I'm utterly fascinated by all the scrutiny and intreague that the series undergoes between races from both the riders and public. Thanks Skids for working out who I need to beat and by how much...I didn't know you cared :lol:.

This whole thread reminds me of the argument that reared its head in World Supers in the late 90s when some of the Wildcards (especially in Japan, where the top five places were all taken by little locals) started taking all the "spoils" from the regulars...and Colin Edwards' response was a very sportsman-like "Well....we'll just have to RIDE HARDER"

Well...I'm going to say the same (and NOT in an attempt to influence the "sportsman of the year" award...no, no!). Seriously...I couldn't care less if "wildcards" started taking our thunder! I know we bang on about the "true spirit" of the race series...and my own take on this means that we really shouldn't start getting too upset about a place-or-two.

I do question why I take part in the series half the time (and the missus is determined to put a stop to it next year anyway!!!!!!), and then race-day commeth round and it all makes sense as I crest Paddock Hill Bend with an enormous smile on my face....but I don't actually care too much where I finish in the Championship, as long as I've given it my best....oh...AND BEATEN RATTLER :mad:

Andy #99

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What have I done?:puzzled::puzzled:

i think you just annoy people.
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improving so much all the time.
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i know it annoys me ;)

Will she manage? Mine is aware there is no permitted discussion about that this year :lol:

thats it antoine, show her who wears the trousers.

What have I done?:puzzled::puzzled: [/quote]

Overtaken ME in the leader-board mate! :flame:

Andy #99

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I do question why I take part in the series half the time (and the missus is determined to put a stop to it next year anyway!!!!!!)[/quote]

Will she manage? Mine is aware there is no permitted discussion about that this year :lol: [/quote]

No she won't (and I know she "patrols" the board, so now I'm in BIG trouble!!!)

Good call on the "not permitted" front...I'll try that....NOT!

Andy #99

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Remember...he's a Frenchman....they wear "self-removing" trousers :lol::lol:

Andy #99

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