Honestly Tony, you have no idea what you're talking about do you.

Your smug postings won't get a rise out of me, but your clearly trying to push peoples buttons.

BORING!!!!!!

Go polish your bike and think up some excuses for why you can't win on it next year - apart from it being 'just for fun and you don't care'

YAWN!!!

Andy#99 - might be best mate, if you pop round for a natter about the difference in the torque from mid range and the overall top hp.
Basically its the better driving force out of corners if you have a better mid range.

Too long for me to type, but can explain better if talking

Alan

Wow Dom, what a sore loser.....

Bloody hell...handbags at 20 paces!

Geoff...if you ever want to take my 583 out next year against the 620s to settle all this general bullsh*t, you're more than welcome :D It should have a genuine 45bhp, if you can handle it!

[Edited on 12-11-2005 by Grib]

Heyup! Fred Deleeter is at work here. ;)

He wouldn't win.

We'll probably never know...

I'm not a loser, let alone a sore loser.

I just can't stand all this sycophantic ********!!

Get over yourselves, stop kissing Geoff's arse, trying to wind each other up (that goes for everyone) and if you can't say anything positive or constructive (without kissing ass or taking the pee) then keep it to yourselves!!

Geoff isn't stupid enough to ride a 583 against the 70bhp 620's.

While I'm on this subject, I don't think Geoff is crap, he has proved he's a good rider, but it irritates me that people think he's a race god!

Who did he beat?

Hate to be pedantic and a stickler for details but you didn't win :sniff:

Nobody said he was a God of any kind, he was just the best of the people he was riding against...can't be any more or less than that. The usual British attitude of trying to shoot down successful people seems to be in full swing here though!

Ummm.... you and a whole host of others. Repeatedly and convincingly. :lol:

I'm surprised you had to ask that question really - it wasn't a trick question, was it Dom?

So everyone in Desmo Due are losers?

I know WHO he beat, but WHO did he beat?

Jeez, not a hard one was it? :lol:

It was hardly a grid of hardened racers - about 5 people had previously raced, some not for years, and some only once or twice - the other 25 were novices.

That's WHO he beat.

AND... I'm not taking it away from Geoff, you can only beat the people put in front of you.

Fair play to Geoff, he won - but I'm not gunna crawl up his arse.

Read into it what you will, if I don't win a race I am a loser in that race.

Want to borrow my Dictionary, I've just bought it and it's the fastest bestest spelling championship winning dictionary in the land ? :lol::lol:

It doesn't matter who he beat - I know exactly what you said and meant. Whatever, to win any race is an achievement irrespective of whether or not the field was full of hardened racers. The truth is he kicked your arse repeatedly and you are supposed to be an accomplished racer with podium results. That you also got beaten by novices fairly often doesn't make you look that good, does it?

I don't see anybody crawling up Geoff's arse here but, I do sense you being so far up your own that you can neither see daylight or smell coffee.

I agree entirely.


That's right, 6 years ago. I raced for 2 years and did 20 races (that's 40 less than Couch commando did this year).

Since then I have owned a road bike (zx7) for 2 months, done 2 trackdays and 3 races in 2001, and 2 races in 2003.

That's how accomplished I am.

Geoff seems like a legend now doesn't he.


Except when I rode without a broken arm, not in the rain or at Cadwell - So just at Brands then really where I was only beaten by 620's with 10bhp more.


You obviously don't follow the series close enough.

Luckily I'm so far up my own arse that I can still see the computer screen and reply to your post.

I could add my 2 cents worth on the above debate about riders performances but I will refrain from doing so.
As I would rather answer Andy's question


When I rode Senna3's 675 at Llandow after just hoping off my 583 the first thing I noticed was how much stronger it pulled out of corners, below 7K you may as well knock mine down another gear as its loosing out as power has dropped to about 44bhp, where as the 675 has only dropped to 47bhp, the 675 can allow the revs to drop to 6.5k before its power drops to 44bhp although this is a bit pointless the best thing is for the 675 to run slightly higher gearing than the 583 and use exactly the same rev range and use the few extra bhp to pull the taller gearing which equates to it going faster.
I'm fairly certain my lap times around places like Castle Combe and Cadwell full circuit would be roughly a second a lap quicker if I was on a 675.