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philthy 09-Dec-2005 16:00

So don't bl00dy well tell me it's the primary school teacher coz it effin well is not.

Ains. :flame: [/quote]

Well as it's panto season....


OH YES IT IS!

bradders 09-Dec-2005 16:20

god I've heard some bollox on here but..this is oustanding!! Well done RCA!

clockwork orange 09-Dec-2005 16:30

[/quote]Death Penalty - nah, too easy. Give em jail and let them suffer their conscience if they have one.[/quote]

Why should the taxpayer foot the bill ?????

bike mad 09-Dec-2005 16:52

RCA you make me so mad, you have to under stand that you cant stop a thief all you can do is make it harder for them, I could tell you some stories where the owner has done all they could but the bikes still went, you can stop an honest person being tempted by not leaving your keys in the ignition, just think your house has windows and chains can be cut and alarms can be deactivated,
put the blame where it belongs and stop blaming the poor sod that loses this pride and joy and see the parasite for what he is.
just think if you lose your keys like I did then you soon get all the locks off and under stand how easy it is to take a well locked up bike.:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::flame::burn::burn:

Ains. 09-Dec-2005 18:44

Quote:

Originally posted by philthy
So don't bl00dy well tell me it's the primary school teacher coz it effin well is not.

Ains. :flame:

Well as it's panto season....


OH YES IT IS! [/quote]

:lol::lol::lol:

BEHIND YOU!

Ains.

RCA 10-Dec-2005 01:18

Quote:

Originally posted by bike mad
RCA you make me so mad, you have to under stand that you cant stop a thief

Yes you can, I have managed it. Bored now, Iam right, end of. Off for Corn Flakes and to watch Polti!

weeian 10-Dec-2005 03:51

Quote:

Originally posted by RCA
Owning a motorbike in England.

Lets face it, England is a dump. The criminal justice supports the criminal. How can the police with straight faces, urge the public to rely on the law, when we all accept the law is an ass. The police are sh*t scared of the criminals and are totally powerless. We are surrounded by drugs addicts, organised bike thieves, and imports of a mixed variety with no identity, you cannot trust any ****er. The fact is you can NEVER leave your bike out of site. If you have to do this, even if it is locked, you may as well leave the keys in it and the engine running, leave your helmet for them as well.

I cannot sympathise with anyone thus far who has had their bike stolen. I cannot believe people are stupid enough to take a bike to a track (especially a ‘flash’ Ducati), leaving it unattended for several hours, relying on a bunch of reprobate security staff? WTF???!! and as for parking a Ducati outside, unattended, Iam amazed at peoples niavety.

And it’s no good posting empty threats toward the criminals unless you are prepared to follow them through, and look what happend to Tony Martin.... Most bike thieves are gangs, who don’t have the mentally that you or I have. My dad had a works van stolen last year, fully loaded, he made a few enquires, was given a name, but was advised to leave well alone....

My advice, don’t give the opportunist the opportunity in the first place.

1. Keep the bike in the House. If this is not psychical possible, then move house, (I did). If you partner ‘does not want a bike in the house’, tell them to move out (I did).
2. Alarm the House.
3. Chain the bike to something fixed, like a radiator and remove the wheel nuts.
4. Immobilise & Alarm the bike.
5. Buy a large dog and keep it hungry, (not starving!).

If you cannot do any of the above, move to Spain or Italy (No ice, cheper beer, slimmer girls).

RA

no they wont learn ! i dont leave my bike out my sight whereever i go, i lover her too much to do so. !! :devil:

/ian

nicks 12-Dec-2005 10:37

Question.

What should i do when i fill my bike up with fuel?

a) Take dog with me to guard it?
b) Take pillion to guard it?
c) Always ride with a friend and take turns to guard bikes when filling up?

I know that there are thieving scumbags out there but you have to live your life and not let them get the better of you.

Insurance is a legal requirement.

People who put false claims in i.e for damaged lids and leathers etc are pushing the premiums up.

Some years ago my Cannondale mountain bike was stolen. I suppose that was my fault as i had carbon fibre forks and lots of titanium bits?

It was locked in my garage, both wheels were off and all gear mechanisms as i was replacing the bearings. Mr Scumbag just collected all the bits and took it in bits.

Anyway must go my bikes are alone in the garage!

Nick 916 12-Dec-2005 23:11

Had the bike chained to the floor(rear Wheel) via cemented holder, disc lock, front and rear, STILL went missing! on phoning the insurance company I was 1 of 10 reported thefts that night in the same area, if you have a bike that is targeted all I can say is your unlucky. or you could be really unlucky and catch them in the act of stealing your bike, 1 police never get there, 2 you go out and get the life kicked out of you, 3 you hit them, police arrive, nick you, you go to court and get a record/or do time for GBH/ABH....!!!!
I love my bike, and I'm paying for the one that got stolen, £500 to insure the 916 TPFT! but if it's wanted that bad, it goes...

RCA 13-Dec-2005 12:16

Quote:

Originally posted by nicks
Question.
What should i do when i fill my bike up with fuel?


Nothing, it wont be out of sight ,you'll have put your disc lock on the front and as it would take you 5 seconds max to run from the till back to the bike, it is not likely someone is going to successfully steel it....

....unless Derren Brown is filling up his transit, in which case you are FUBAR'd.

Next...

philthy 13-Dec-2005 12:24

Marketing Idea:eureka:

Electronically activated land mine! Park your back wheel on it and arm it with your key fob. Eat ,sleep, leave the bike outside the house etc. in total confidence!

Just NEVER EVER ride off without de activating it first.

Phil

dickieducati 13-Dec-2005 12:34

RCA if you choose to live surrounded by a bunch of northern monkeys what do you expect.;)

RCA 13-Dec-2005 17:11

Quote:

Originally posted by dickieducati
RCA if you choose to live surrounded by a bunch of northern monkeys what do you expect.;)

I would'nt have it any other way, love northerners, and love monkeys. :rodent:

duc daz 07-Jan-2006 13:14

Quote:

Originally posted by multi600
My 748 and multistrada live in garage away from the house I don't even take the keys out of the ignition some days. I don't fit any locks or any other security items. When I open the garage door which is only locked with the small lock in the middle of the twist handle I don't want to spend 20mins or so unlocking everything. I just get on and ride. I don't lock it outside work and I always park in the same place (bike park). The only bike I have ever had nicked (DT 175) was one Christmas morning I run out of petrol. I chained the bike to a lamp post and a concrete bench. 25mins later it had gone, I just rely on the insurance now that's what it's there for.
you are asking for it mate:eureka:

duc daz 07-Jan-2006 13:18

when storing your bike after each ride you need to put your self inside a theif,s mind ,how would you steal the bike ,and make it very difficult for them:sing:

Brogins 07-Jan-2006 13:45

This post is really funny....

:D:D:D:D:D

Stealth 07-Jan-2006 14:47

How very silly this whole thread is.

Those who nick bikes shouldn't be legitimised by implying it's the owners fault. Its that attitude that allows law and order to break down.

Having a bike is about using your it and enjoying it - not giving in to a warped small minority of society who think they can take other peoples property. Fine, if you want an ornament in a glass case - but my preference is to live life and enjoy very day I ride my bike.

Interesting view expressed by RCA but one I am happy for him to champion alone.

Thank you.

gasmanrus 07-Jan-2006 15:22

if your bike gets nicked with the keys still in it do you expect to get payed out? seriously, you must have more money than sense (or be really lazy!)

:puzzled:

Bikerchick 15-Jan-2006 22:57

France is not a dump - it's my home country :o so thanks for that RCA oh and get a life ... BC

Mad Dog Bianchi 16-Jan-2006 10:07

vigilantes....Mexican style.....

jeff st4s 16-Jan-2006 11:01

Relax before you have a heart attack
 
You could always try the following;
Buy a proper old mans bike, paint it red and then put some duacti stickers on it, this will makes it less desirable to steal.
Reading your letter makes me never want to got out on my bike ever again.
If your world is like the Mad Max one then maybe you may need to talk to someone.
Isn't that what insurance is for? you buy your dream bike, pay your money to mr big insurance business, some sad person accidently takes home the wrong bike, you wake up the next day and also get shafted by mr big business too.
I'm sure we all get shafted at some point it's how we deal with it that counts.
I'm getting done by our house insurer at present, nieghbour died in his house fire, ours got smoke damaged they have been trying everything to get out of sorting the claim.
Thats life.

deej 16-Jan-2006 11:13

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

funny old thread this one.

why pay £10k for a bike if you cant afford to insure it fulyl comp. im paying £375 fc for a 748 with all my extra's covered and thats after a driving ban and a claim. i didnt have a garage so my old bike was locked up with chain in the back wheel, disk lock on the front wheel and it was nicked between 11.30 and 12.00am one tuesday dinner time whilst i walked to the local chippy for some dinner. tell me how its my fault my bike got nicked you tosser ??? what more could i have done.

Haga-prisas 16-Jan-2006 11:37

MOVE TO SPAIN :sing:

BUT remember, certified Ducati mechanics are extremely hard to find here... BUT nobody steals Ducati as there's no secondhand market (very few ducatis), you'd have to switch youyr driking habbits from beer to red wine and cope with slim brunettes which love to play hard-to-get (no girls-drom-Essex-kinda-attitude unfortunately) :sing:
9 dry-months a year for an excellent choice of race tracks and very few policemen on our twisted roads... paradise
Jesus has heard your prayers

RCA 16-Jan-2006 12:28

Hi there, thought we had put this one to bed?

We have strayed somewhat from my original point, which to summaries was, be vigilant.

Haga-prisas - will be over in June for the Catalunya MOTOGP, have the red ready! Whats your house number? :D

[Edited on 16-1-2006 by RCA]

Bikerchick 16-Jan-2006 21:52

We ARE vigiliant mups thats wat we are tryin to tell you...

Hola Haga-prisas Madrid me encanta, hace anos que hemos quitado Paseo de la Habana 72...entonces no hablo tan bien que antes...:( Me gusto mucho espana...hasta luego... BC

RCA 16-Jan-2006 22:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Bikerchick
We ARE vigiliant mups thats wat we are tryin to tell you...

Think you can relax, that bus of yours aint going anywhere.:lol:

loverobot 17-Jan-2006 09:23

Quote:

Originally posted by RCA
Hi there, thought we had put this one to bed?

We have strayed somewhat from my original point, which to summaries was, be vigilant.




Hmmm
No, actually your original post went much further than that as did your subsequent replies. Your suggestions as to how to be 'vigiliant' were extreme and you advised everyone that if they werent as 'vigilant' they deserved no sympathy.

RCA 17-Jan-2006 09:43

Quote:

Hmmm
No, actually your original post went much further than that as did your subsequent replies. Your suggestions as to how to be 'vigiliant' were extreme and you advised everyone that if they werent as 'vigilant' they deserved no sympathy.

Correct, they dont. Leaving keys in the ignition? Taking a £20k bike to a track on a race day? You expect me to sympathies? You have a lot to learn.

loverobot 17-Jan-2006 09:54

thanks for the lesson
that would be "sympathise"

my problem with your suggestions is that to follow your example would mean effectively not using the bike in many peoples cases

for example, i commute on whatever bikes i own - have to leave it unattended
i travel to 'see' things on a weekend - have to leave it unattended
i go to see friends on my bikes - have to leave it unattended

so do i deserve my bike stealing?

a bike is a mode of transport - a superb one i will grant you but transport all the same
transport is to get you from a to b
when you get to b you tend to doing other things, not just sat admiring the bike no?
the fact that you do it on a sportsbike is irrelevant
the fact is most people will leave their bikes unattended so presumeably they all deserve theirs stealing as well?

PB 17-Jan-2006 12:21

Hmmmmmmm, ....... I have to agree entirely with stealth2: We seem to be missing the whole point.......

Those that steal (amonst other crimes) are those that should be targeted, and dealt with (questions of incarceration, punishment, & rehabilitation would fill their own thread).

It is reasonable to remove keys & rely upon a steering lock in a law abiding environment to remove overt temptation. After which, If a person is determined to steal it demonstrates deliberate intention and it should be the criminal elements that are focused upon rather than the easier & morally bankrupt option of forcing the remainder of society to adopt restrictive and unpleasant measures of security.

For me, this general principal applies to all aspects of civilised human behaviour, otherwise we descend into chaos & anarchy............

PS France & Spain are magnificent, & Britain has its charms (but they do not include the Planning System..):sing:

philthy 17-Jan-2006 12:31

Quote:

Originally posted by ali
Quote:

Originally posted by multi600
My 748 and multistrada live in garage away from the house I don't even take the keys out of the ignition some days. I don't fit any locks or any other security items. When I open the garage door which is only locked with the small lock in the middle of the twist handle I don't want to spend 20mins or so unlocking everything. I just get on and ride. I don't lock it outside work and I always park in the same place (bike park). The only bike I have ever had nicked (DT 175) was one Christmas morning I run out of petrol. I chained the bike to a lamp post and a concrete bench. 25mins later it had gone, I just rely on the insurance now that's what it's there for.

I'm exactly the same. Bikes get left, often with the keys in, in a garage with a tiny padlock on the outside. I never lock them when parked elsewhere, just take the keys out. I'd never get back what they're worth by insurance, but I'm fcucked if I 'm going to let a bunch of thieving gypsy scum give me sleepless nights worrying if they're carrying liquid nitrogen or an angle grinder. If they get nicked then so be it. Still got a roof over my head, food in my belly, and a top notch missus. :D

Ali


Loverobot

I think most of us are somewhere between the above more easy going attitude and RCA s rather stricter methods.

My bikes are kept in a shed/garage ( Connected to the house alarm ) with normal door locks and abus chains & locks fitted to the bikes.

If the bikes are out and I'm inside the house they are locked and chained at the back of the house and never left out on the road for the ''naughty men'' to see.

If I'm out for the day and out of sight of the bike I try and leave it in a prominent place e.g. next to car park attendants hut or car park entrance and chained to a post. I'm not naive enough to think the above will totally prevent theft but let's face it, if mine's locked and chained then thieves will be more likely to go for the unchained one parked in a quiet spot, out of sight of the public.

It may add five or ten minutes onto your journey to do the above, but save you having to sort out getting home/reporting theft to the police/filling in claim forms etc.

I know which I would rather do.

:)

Just seen your post PB very well put.

I'm firmly in the flog 'em and hang 'em brigade myself :lol:

loverobot 17-Jan-2006 13:16

Philthy - I do exactly as you describe - the 748 is ground anchored alarmed on the bike and the house is alarmed for example

When out I leave it locked alrmed and prominent

But it is inevitable that it is 'out of sight' of course at times and i think it is unfortunate to suggest in these circumstances the owners deserved it - especially when it probably their pride and joy

Bikerchick 17-Jan-2006 13:54

Quote:

Originally posted by RCA

Think you can relax, that bus of yours aint going anywhere.:lol:

I like my bus - it's my fun bike... you should see my 'serious' bike ... since when do people **** off other people's choices by implying that their bike is better? BC

749er 19-Jan-2006 20:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Bikerchick
Quote:

Originally posted by RCA

Think you can relax, that bus of yours aint going anywhere.:lol:

I like my bus - it's my fun bike... you should see my 'serious' bike ... since when do people **** off other people's choices by implying that their bike is better? BC

Don't know, but apparently I have a basic model. I find that amusing.

749er 19-Jan-2006 20:47

Quote:

Originally posted by Bikerchick
Quote:

Originally posted by RCA

Think you can relax, that bus of yours aint going anywhere.:lol:

I like my bus - it's my fun bike... you should see my 'serious' bike ... since when do people **** off other people's choices by implying that their bike is better? BC

Don't know, but apparently I have a basic model. I find that amusing.

RCA 19-Jan-2006 21:14

I don't know either, apparently it came in the wrong colour? It was yellow?

749er 19-Jan-2006 22:25

Quote:

Originally posted by RCA
I don't know either, apparently it came in the wrong colour? It was yellow?

:lol:

rossco572 01-Jul-2010 11:47

dear loverobot,
If you're going to pick someone up on their spelling, you should check you're own first!!!!!

John W 01-Jul-2010 13:30

holy cr@p, this is a thread from over 4 years ago...

did you have a nice long sleep rossco :lol:

mikesps 04-Jul-2010 09:18

You mean "check your own first".



Quote:

Originally Posted by rossco572
dear loverobot,
If you're going to pick someone up on their spelling, you should check you're own first!!!!!



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