The joys of being the medic,

Alcohol is for bufties, i have a cupboard full of Vallies.............

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ooooops!...made a bit of a booboo...looked on invoice as had doubts re price and actually paid £7,000...think it must have been wishful thinking at the time....still good price though! soz everyone....dont shout! :o

Well said Martin. I don't know why people insist on saying how great a deal they got. This is a public forum so they had a good stab in devaluing everyones bike, INCLUDING THEIR OWN, so not such a great deal or a smart move to broadcast. When these bargain bikes pop up in the For Sale section, and I am looking or one, I will waste no time in printing this thread off and reminding the seller what the paid for it. Am sure anyone else looking in would do the same.

The dealers involved dont help either, and I wonder what view Ducati will take. I had a mate who worked for a major car manufacturer. Dealers who broke the rules, suffered, through being at the end of the queue for special low volume runs.

Its good we all help each other out but some things should be done on U2U.

The 749 is a great bike. I just picked up a Kwak zx636R which I am real happy with but its not a 749.

well 749er. I cannot see the problem in making public what I paid for my bike....maybe its sour grapes on your part that you didnt do the same instead of buying your kwak...I will not be selling my 749 and shall probably buy a 996 next spring to go alongside the 749...I didnt buy the 749 as an investment, but to ride....just didnt want to pay through the nose for it....dont care if it devalues....I can afford it!:frog:

U2U

didnt receive it

ZX6R is a second bike. My 749 is not for sale. Am fortunate to be able to run 2 bikes. Not everyone is and I feel everyone deserves some consideration, especially those trying to sell a bike just now. Have a look at the For Sale section.

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How stupid do you feel :D:D:D:D:D

Bibjo,
This thread is a perfect example of why customers should not discuss what they paid for their bike.

See my posts further up this thread. It doesn't help anyone at all.

1) The customers that paid more than you originally will be p***ed off.
2) The customers that own 749's and feel theirs has just been devalued dramatically because you forgot what you paid will be p***ed off.
3) The new customers that go into their local dealer and can't get as good a deal as that (for whatever reason) will be p***ed off.
4) The dealers (like me) that feel they are put in an awkward position because of this misguided thread will be p***ed off.
5) The people that are trying to buy used machines and have just been given false hope as to what they can afford will be p***ed off.
6) The customers that are trying to sell a used machine on this forum (or anywhere else on the planet) will be scratching their heads thinking they are over priced when they're not........They will be p***ed off.
7) Ducati Uk and Ducati in Italy (I know they both read the threads on this forum) will be upset! (better not say p***ed off here :))

Need I say more? I could keep rattling on here!!

In effect, the only people / person that is not p***ed off is you really! That's why it's no so good to announce prices on a global public forum. Remember these comments can be read by anyone on the planet with a PC. These comments can have a very far flung effect! :(
We all have to remember that, not just me as a dealer. We all love the bikes, that's why we are here. Get behind the brand, we will ALL benefit financially and personally if we do.

Well done for securing that deal, you've got an amazing bike for unbelievably cheap money!!

However, I feel it better to reassure the buying / selling public that this is not a typical case. I really appreciate your honesty and comments up this thread. It's good to get feedback from all the Duc owners out there. Especially female riders, I wish there were more. (not for those reasons Davie :lol: )

By the way the dealer is still making a loss there! As I said above there are definitely reasons why this has happened but we still haven't gotten to the bottom of it yet. I'm not saying your are telling porkies here either! I mean there must be internal dealer factors you could simply not be aware of at work. The dealer would have to come on here and explain how they managed this.

But is it really worth it? Maybe? I think it best to let sleeping dogs lie and get back to having fun on here, the way we should at all times!

Let's leave prices to the showrooms, it's such a sensitive issue, someone's always going to feel their nose put out of joint and none of us really wants that do we?!?

Right, it's Saturday morning and we're getting busy, must dash! Everyone have a good weekend!

Martin ;)

[Edited on 17-12-2005 by Martin Ducati Glasgow]

ok,ok....stop shouting!.....when I put the price I paid I had no idea that it wasnt the going rate for this time of year and didnt mean to pee anyone off...I take your points but I think even the dealers realise that the dukes are overpriced compared to the jap bikes, not only that, but they are usually a tad unreliable & cost double to service = no sale?as I replied to 749er...thousands of apologies & wished I'd kept my trap shut! :sniff:

I don't care if people want to discus what they paid for there bikes in public.
as someone who will never buy a bike brand new I like to see prices coming down any how.
its up to the individual. don't need a dealer to tell them otherwise.
and if you believe everything you read on message boards. I know a man who paid £4000 for a brand new 749 no actually they gave it to him o no sorry they paid him to take it away.
do you think prices might come crashing down now ?
maybe not

1) The customers that paid more than you originally will be p***ed off.

Too bad

2) The customers that own 749's and feel theirs has just been devalued dramatically because you forgot what you paid will be p***ed off.

get over it its just a basic model

3) The new customers that go into their local dealer and can't get as good a deal as that (for whatever reason) will be p***ed off.

go somewhere else then

4) The dealers (like me) that feel they are put in an awkward position because of this misguided thread will be p***ed off.

you wont sell it for les than you want anyhow

5) The people that are trying to buy used machines and have just been given false hope as to what they can afford will be p***ed off.

don't believe the hype

6) The customers that are trying to sell a used machine on this forum (or anywhere else on the planet) will be scratching their heads thinking they are over priced when they're not........They will be p***ed off.

stop dreaming you know what its worth at the end of the day

7) Ducati Uk and Ducati in Italy (I know they both read the threads on this forum) will be upset! (better not say p***ed off here )

why they'll just be glad to see more people getting into the brand.

Bibjo, i'm really not shouting at all here, just putting across some of my opinions. Sorry if you get that impression from my last post. ;)

Keefer, i'm trying to protect everyone's interest here, that's all mate!

1) The customers that paid more than you originally will be p***ed off.

Too bad
That's a bit rough!I'm simply trying to remain sensitive to the masses and the bigger national picture here mate!

2) The customers that own 749's and feel theirs has just been devalued dramatically because you forgot what you paid will be p***ed off.

get over it its just a basic model
I can see why you would say that but you're missing the point chap! The same rules apply for all bikes from the cheapest to the most expensive. This 749 thread is merely an example! Call it an M620 or an 999R then!!!

3) The new customers that go into their local dealer and can't get as good a deal as that (for whatever reason) will be p***ed off.

go somewhere else then
That's not a viable or prefferable solution to most and doesn't build any customer / dealer relationships. I know for a fact the vast majority of customers would prefer to deal locally on a level playing field than feeling they have to travel. Neither does it help the network of dealers that have put themselves there for the benefit of the customers (it's not all about making money you know. Well not to me anyway!)

4) The dealers (like me) that feel they are put in an awkward position because of this misguided thread will be p***ed off.

you wont sell it for les than you want anyhow
yeah but we like to make sales, introduce new people to the brand and make money whilst still looking after the customer interest as best we can. I don't like feeling I have to sell my soul just to make a buck or two! Sometimes I feel people resent us making money, God forbid that ever happens? :lol:

5) The people that are trying to buy used machines and have just been given false hope as to what they can afford will be p***ed off.

don't believe the hype
I don't need to believe it. In my position I face it daily. I know what the hype is, plus I am aware of the reality better than most. I've seen, on numerous occaions, peoples hopes dashed when they get a reality check!!

6) The customers that are trying to sell a used machine on this forum (or anywhere else on the planet) will be scratching their heads thinking they are over priced when they're not........They will be p***ed off.

stop dreaming you know what its worth at the end of the day
Yeah mate, I know what they are worth, but threads like this don't exactly help anyone else figure out what the score is. I'm not dreaming here, this is my job!

7) Ducati Uk and Ducati in Italy (I know they both read the threads on this forum) will be upset! (better not say p***ed off here )

why they'll just be glad to see more people getting into the brand.
I doubt (in fact I know) Ducati are not thrilled about their brand being devalued, just like the rest of us. I go to dealer meetings both here and Italy, i've spoken to the top management personally on many occasions regarding this topic.

Keefer, i'm really not trying to be argumentative here, i'm thinking of everyones best interest, including yours and mine
;) Discounting happens, it's a way of life! I accept that. I may even do it occasionally dependant on the circumstances.

The "Ducati Experience" is all about community, fun, riding bikes, solidarity amonst like-minded folk and much, much more. In my opinion, this is the only brand with such an attraction, that's why I love it so much. I've made some true friends in here and had a real laugh doing it! See last weeks thread about the Scottish contingent Christmas night out!

As long as each customer feels looked after. That's the big picture. Comparisons between one to another in my experience don't always help, they can create discord that otherwise wouldn't exist!

Just my opinion though!
:):):)

I've just bought a brand new 999R for £1.50 :rodent:

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