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skidlids 08-Nov-2013 21:23

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Originally Posted by milesaway
that makes even more sense!!- I wondered why hottrax were making it a choice of only those 2- are the double points at croft only for their championships too?


Yes Miles as things currently Stand.

For many down South Croft is quite a distance and they may not bother going if the Top 3 in championships are already decided, putting a possible maximum of 200 points on the table at the final round may well keep some of the Championships undecided until the final round and attract more entrants

Personally I would like to do Croft even though its the last round, in October and in all likely hood my championship position will be of no consequence. But its a new circuit to me and should fit within my budget (although that may be dependent on me having a job beyond March)

mat2hew 09-Nov-2013 17:45

My Mate Sam West tells me that the croft is a lovely circuit to ride, he said we'll love it there.

badgerpilot 09-Nov-2013 21:16

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Originally Posted by mat2hew
My Mate Sam West tells me that the croft is a lovely circuit to ride, he said we'll love it there.


Chris Norris says the same! :)

Skids, as things stand now we're back into dropping rounds. Does that mean we drop a single full round or can we choose 3 races to drop from any rounds as per when we ran with New Era?

skidlids 09-Nov-2013 22:16

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Originally Posted by badgerpilot
Chris Norris says the same! :)

Skids, as things stand now we're back into dropping rounds. Does that mean we drop a single full round or can we choose 3 races to drop from any rounds as per when we ran with New Era?


A final decision has yet to be made and then its getting the wording sorted.

The current thinking is either drop one whole round or any three "Did Not Start (DNS) races".

For those that do enter every round they will drop any DNS's along with their lowest point scoring finishes.

It will NOT be possible to drop DNFs, encouraging riders to ride for a result.
But allows riders to pull back points if they have bike problems early in a meeting

badgerpilot 10-Nov-2013 00:18

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Originally Posted by skidlids
A final decision has yet to be made and then its getting the wording sorted.

The current thinking is either drop one whole round or any three "Did Not Start (DNS) races".

For those that do enter every round they will drop any DNS's along with their lowest point scoring finishes.

It will NOT be possible to drop DNFs, encouraging riders to ride for a result.
But allows riders to pull back points if they have bike problems early in a meeting


So hypothetically speaking, if you win every race apart from 3 crashes you still drop 75 points?

Apologies for getting a bit further ahead than needed at the mo.

banger san 10-Nov-2013 09:24

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Originally Posted by badgerpilot
So hypothetically speaking, if you win every race apart from 3 crashes you still drop 75 points?

Apologies for getting a bit further ahead than needed at the mo.


All races count "simples"

skidlids 10-Nov-2013 09:49

I am so glad somebody else will have all this to deal with next year

badgerpilot 10-Nov-2013 15:45

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Originally Posted by skidlids
I am so glad somebody else will have all this to deal with next year


Was just a question, in no way a head peck fella. You and the rest of the RC do a top job.

Maybe after his brilliant mud-plugging organisation Miles would fancy the task if you've had enough?

Miles?....................

mat2hew 10-Nov-2013 17:55

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Originally Posted by skidlids
I am so glad somebody else will have all this to deal with next year


you givin it up Kev?

I thought we were sorted for life.

skidlids 10-Nov-2013 20:09

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Originally Posted by mat2hew
you givin it up Kev?

I thought we were sorted for life.


Matt it was just over 12 months ago when I stepped down from the position and then it was decided that it would be an elected position for a term of 2 years. so towards the end of next season the position will become vacant and an election held.

I do get fed up of a lot of the selfish views that are often expressed at this time of year, many seem to have no idea about the original aims of DD and just want to change it into another race club class like all the others.

At present I am looking at requests from the Chief Technical officer to do something about our DD series oil issues, Anglesey, Brands, Cadwell and Pembrey this year, so 50% of events effected by oil

Also the securing of petrol tanks to reduce the likely hood of fuel spillage such as we had a delay for at Pembrey in August.

Also trying to secure a tyre deal for 2014

Putting together a 2014 Entrants spreadsheet

Updating the rule books for 2014 and Looking into how going to 9 rounds effects the rules and how to come up with alternative wording to the rule.

Thinking about the entry entitlement for Class B as at the moment its a restricted entry Class with no requirement to move on.

Yet it seems some would like to have prize money in the way of vouchers which seems a bit unfair to me on the newcomers coming into the class that would effectively be paying money to the more experienced racers finishing ahead of them. Then if the voucher system is done away next year you end up changing the rules again.

Always bearing in mind that Class B as it is now will soon die off if we don't attract New Novice racers to it each year. And the constantly rising costs don't help. Higher fuel costs, higher tyre prices, Higher entry fees from extra race and extra rounds, soon a £4k season becomes a £5 season and new racers start looking elsewhere

As far as I'm concerned DD isn't broken so why mess with it more than you have to.

milesaway 10-Nov-2013 21:11

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Originally Posted by skidlids


Yet it seems some would like to have prize money in the way of vouchers which seems a bit unfair to me on the newcomers coming into the class that would effectively be paying money to the more experienced racers finishing ahead of them. Then if the voucher system is done away next year you end up changing the rules again.

Always bearing in mind that Class B as it is now will soon die off if we don't attract New Novice racers to it each year. And the constantly rising costs don't help. Higher fuel costs, higher tyre prices, Higher entry fees from extra race and extra rounds, soon a £4k season becomes a £5 season and new racers start looking elsewhere

As far as I'm concerned DD isn't broken so why mess with it more than you have to.


I totally agree- why d'you need prize money- my first pot at about £7.5k seems well worth it and got there on ONLY 5 tyres from when i joined 2 seasons ago (and 2 of them are still good for next season)- nice and simple with closely matched cheap bikes makes good racing that even i can almost afford-

stick to yr guns kev- it's a philosophy that works- can't see class b dying anytime soon and it looks really promising for next year judging by the end of this season with a good core of guys with great attitude-

can't wait for next season and wouldn't change anything apart from maybe being sponsored!!

badgerpilot 10-Nov-2013 22:06

100% in agreement with Miles there. If we were in it for the money we wouldn't be thrashing sub £2000, 15yr old bikes would we?

It's Class B or nothing for me, even an extra round next year could be a budget buster.

Spjallen 10-Nov-2013 22:54

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The whole concept of DD works for me on and off the track. The DSC committee make good educated decisions and don't seem overse to sensible ideas and requested as long as they go through the committee at the correct time.
I for one am happy with it.

mat2hew 11-Nov-2013 20:00

maybe we should have a special letterbox for complaints and new suggestions,, I'm sure you could rig something up that would randomly electrocute every third one.

Trumpet 11-Nov-2013 23:42

I totally support what Miles said....
I know I have only been here for one season, and I have little to compare against in terms of bike racing. But to me the management of DD racing is outstanding and I really could not agree more with the other posts...it really is not broke, in fact quite the opposite.
Having been involved in other sports and I do know that what the whole DD organisation does can seem like a very thankless task, but still they carry on working really hard to provide us with a fantastic series. I also know how much it means to be supported and appreciated, so to all the DD organisers...
THANK YOU!

Can't wait for next season already!

coppersaucepipe 14-Nov-2013 12:43

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Originally Posted by badgerpilot
100% in agreement with Miles there. If we were in it for the money we wouldn't be thrashing sub £2000, 15yr old bikes would we?

It's Class B or nothing for me, even an extra round next year could be a budget buster.


15 yr old?

my frame will be 20 next year!

I'm guessing we won't have a tyre deal and tyres in place before January so I'd better just get another set of Dunlops for Cartegena at the end of Jan.


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