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Scooter916 13-Feb-2006 23:59

OMG.....lol
Follow the wire up from the starter motor, It will end at the solenoid,......
glyn

skidlids 14-Feb-2006 00:15

Its mounted under the battery box and I have known them to touch the rear cylinder head, which will drag the volts down, I always turn the mounting bracket around (well since I was stranded on the Oxford Ringroad a few years ago) so that the solinoid sits futher away from the cylinder head.

multi600 14-Feb-2006 12:19

To think I nearly bought this bike:o:lol::lol:

Hope you get it sorted soon mate.


Mike

Tonio600 14-Feb-2006 12:43

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Message original : multi600
To think I nearly bought this bike:o:lol::lol:
Hope you get it sorted soon mate.


The bike was running fine when I bought it, I think its biggest problem is me :(

But I'm quite happy, I learn a lot of things about it, and I love that.

Anyway I think the solenoid is the cause of my problems. It doesn't relay the power to the starter motor. Tonight I'll try it on my road bike.

Thanks very much for your help guys, I'm sure I should be able to hear the sound of my 2 into 1 in the days or weeks coming... :lol:

Tonio600 15-Feb-2006 20:40

UPDATE:

I was at the point I thought the problem was due to a faulty starter solenoid on the race bike.

So here is what I did:

1 - checked if the starter solenoid of my road bike works. No problem there, the bike doesn't start cause no petrol in the tank but the starter motor is running fine.
2 - took off the "supposed faulty" starter solenoid from my race bike and tested it on the road bike. Nothing works... cool I thought my problem was sorted out.
3 - took off the starter solenoid of my road bike, fit it on the race bike... nothing works..... :flame:
4 - try to fit it again to the road bike, now doesn't work too :flame: :flame:

Then I thought, I've killed my second relay... Then I checked if that relay was really dead by giving it power and checking the resistance (dunno in English?????) and it gave me 0.3 Ohm which means the relay's still working.....


HELP

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[Edité le 15-2-2006 par Tonio600]

Scooter916 15-Feb-2006 23:59

My heart go`s out to you mate, your a propper tryer.
Have you checked the connections on the solenoid where 12v is supplied by the button ??
Make sure you havent just poped a fuse whilst messing with your other bikes wiring.
I think you must be at the route of your problem or very near.
glyn

Tonio600 16-Feb-2006 00:35

Cheers mate... Yes connection on the solenoid where 12v is supplied by the button are fine... When the relay is powered I can hear and feel it moving...

SAINT DUCATI PLEASE HELP ME :(:(

Scooter916 16-Feb-2006 16:29

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Originally posted by Tonio600
Cheers mate... Yes connection on the solenoid where 12v is supplied by the button are fine... When the relay is powered I can hear and feel it moving...

SAINT DUCATI PLEASE HELP ME :(:(
Physicaly check that you have 12 volts when the button os pressed at the starter, If you dont have a multi meter a test lamp will do, I had one in the past that made all the right noises but didnt allow 12v across the big terminals.
Gash but if you stick a screwdriver over the 2 large terminals does the bike spin over??
Glyn

AK 16-Feb-2006 16:35

Alan says 'Does the mad french man want to pop over for dinner tomorrow - and bring his motorbike with him?'

We'll have room the the garage to take a look, as both race bikes will be loaded, but sorry, cant get over to you till Tues otherwise

C:)

Tonio600 16-Feb-2006 18:15

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Message original : Scooter916
Physicaly check that you have 12 volts when the button os pressed at the starter, If you dont have a multi meter a test lamp will do, I had one in the past that made all the right noises but didnt allow 12v across the big terminals.

I checked with my multi meter that the button well sends 12V to the relay, that is ok.

I checked that the first terminal (the one directly connected to the battery) receives 12V as well, that's fine.

Then I checked that my relay was working fine with my ohm meter, when powered its resistance become 0 Ohm, so that's fine.

When I put my multi meter (in 20V mode) on the second terminal (the one connected to the starter engine) and then press the start button, I can see 12V for a very short time and then back to 0.

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Message original : Scooter916
Gash but if you stick a screwdriver over the 2 large terminals does the bike spin over??
Glyn

I didn't dare to do that but I think I will have to do it... :( Cheers for your help mate.

Tonio600 16-Feb-2006 18:23

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Message original : AK and CK
Alan says 'Does the mad french man want to pop over for dinner tomorrow - and bring his motorbike with him?'

I don't know, will there be enough water to drink for the both of us :lol:

That sounds good :) I get in touch with you later when I'm back home.

AK 16-Feb-2006 23:02

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Originally posted by Tonio600

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Message original : Scooter916
Gash but if you stick a screwdriver over the 2 large terminals does the bike spin over??
Glyn

I didn't dare to do that but I think I will have to do it... :( Cheers for your help mate.

do that next mate - if it does crank, then it sounds like the starter solonoid.

Or, use a direct positive feed to the terminal on the starter motor, from the battery or jump lead (with the earth on the frame or engine) I HAVE to do this on the tri colour sometimes!!


I think I have a spare you can borrow to check it out (but I cant let you have it for long)

Common prob with monsters mate.

Alan

skidlids 17-Feb-2006 00:17

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Originally posted by AK and CK
Or, use a direct positive feed to the terminal on the starter motor, from the battery or jump lead (with the earth on the frame or engine) I HAVE to do this on the tri colour sometimes!!

Alan

He's already done that and the starter motors fine from what he says above

Tonio600 17-Feb-2006 01:12

Yep Kev, done that...

I've spent again the evening in the garage, no progress... Except on one point: I've tidied and sorted my bolts, washers and nuts...

I'm really desesperate. I think I must have a bad earth somewhere (I mean something connected to the earth and which shouldn't...).

domski 17-Feb-2006 01:30

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Originally posted by Tonio600
I've spent again the evening in the garage and sorted my nuts...

I'm really desesperate.

Yes you are!!

Does Julie know?

:lol:

weeian 17-Feb-2006 01:41

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Originally posted by domski
Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
I've spent again the evening in the garage and sorted my nuts...

I'm really desesperate.

Yes you are!!

Does Julie know?

:lol:

HAHAHAH superb !

/ian

Murray Mint 17-Feb-2006 08:49

Tonio, if you want a fresh pair of eyes to look at the problem I'd be glad to help on Saturday when I come over, I'll bring my starter solonoid over with me.

Murray

Tonio600 17-Feb-2006 10:57

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Message original : domski
Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
I've spent again the evening in the garage and sorted my nuts...

I'm really desesperate.

Yes you are!!

Does Julie know?

:lol:

Don't you have to talk about your distant past in another topic mate? :lol:

Tonio600 17-Feb-2006 10:59

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Message original : Murray Mint
Tonio, if you want a fresh pair of eyes to look at the problem I'd be glad to help on Saturday when I come over, I'll bring my starter solonoid over with me.
Murray

That would be great... :)
I think I've got you number, I'll call you as soon as I'm back then you'll pop in whenever you can.

Murray Mint 17-Feb-2006 12:56

Glad to be of help, I'll U2U you my number.

Murray

Scooter916 20-Feb-2006 20:51

U got it running yet tonio ???

Tonio600 20-Feb-2006 22:31

no :(:(:(:(

the scooter is not mine yet... :lol:
But I keep hoping, I've got an appointment with the Dr. AK... fingers crossed.

Scooter916 20-Feb-2006 22:36

No wonder its not fixed, Your garage is in darkness.:lol:

Tonio600 20-Feb-2006 23:02

:D

AK 21-Feb-2006 23:19

well - have you 2 fixed that poxy cranky old monster yet?:puzzled:

C:)

Tonio600 21-Feb-2006 23:30

Yes, he did. Alleluia :lol:

domski 21-Feb-2006 23:34

So, what was it then?

Sheesh, gotta do everything for these europeans :lol:

Scooter916 21-Feb-2006 23:53

Hmmm
Must of been a simple one as he didnt tell us what it was.

domski 21-Feb-2006 23:57

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Originally posted by Scooter916
Hmmm
Must of been a simple one as he didnt tell us what it was.

I think it was the simple one who fixed it too :lol::o

Chaz 22-Feb-2006 00:05

Must have been the old kill switch again.:lol::lol::lol:

domski 22-Feb-2006 00:07

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Originally posted by chass
Must have been the old kill switch again.:lol::lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol: That old chestnut.

He's French you know ;)

:D

Scooter916 22-Feb-2006 00:11

Just checked his webcam, He isnt swinging in the garage yet......
Cant have been the kill switch He cut the wires to that:sing::sing:

Tonio600 22-Feb-2006 09:50

The problem came from the bl00dy Halfords plastic switch :lol: which I used to replace the ignition switch... I think I didn't connect it properly (it has 3 connection points... all that for a red flashing switch :lol: )... After one hour Alan got ride of it and that was it... :D

MY BIKE IS RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIINNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNG

Beware the French bloke with a.... running bike :ninja::ninja::ninja::ninja:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

fil2 22-Feb-2006 13:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
The problem came from the bl00dy Halfords plastic switch :lol: which I used to replace the ignition switch... I think I didn't connect it properly (it has 3 connection points... all that for a red flashing switch :lol: )... After one hour Alan got ride of it and that was it... :D

MY BIKE IS RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIINNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNG

Beware the French bloke with a.... running bike :ninja::ninja::ninja::ninja:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

A running bike with 52.5 rwhp.........Beware the resistance..;)

Tonio600 22-Feb-2006 13:55

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Message original : fil2
A running bike with 52.5 rwhp.........

I'd like to but there is no way my standard bike will be near that :lol:

Mine has never been touched by any Ducati pro ;) (*)







(*) Except Alan but actually he only fitted a titanium ultra light frog boosted ignition switch :lol: The one which comes with Monster 695RS only in France... :lol:

[Edité le 22-2-2006 par Tonio600]

fil2 22-Feb-2006 14:03

Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
Quote:

Message original : fil2
A running bike with 52.5 rwhp.........

I'd like to but there is no way my standard bike will be near that :lol:

Mine has never been touched by any Ducati pro ;) (*)







(*) Except Alan but actually he only fitted a titanium ultra light frog boosted ignition switch :lol: The one which comes with Monster 695RS only in France... :lol:

[Edité le 22-2-2006 par Tonio600]

absolute class.....:D:D:D:D:D


now where do i get me one of those....:devil:

Chaz 22-Feb-2006 21:04

Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
The problem came from the bl00dy Halfords plastic switch :lol: which I used to replace the ignition switch... I think I didn't connect it properly (it has 3 connection points... all that for a red flashing switch :lol: )... After one hour Alan got ride of it and that was it... :D

MY BIKE IS RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIINNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNG

Beware the French bloke with a.... running


bike :ninja::ninja::ninja::ninja:



Ooooooooooooooooooo Snail power look out.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
:flame::flame:


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