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Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Seldom have I read such cobblers on this message board! I hope it at least earns you a few brownie points from Ducati UK. |
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On your first point, I know Honda did it too. But the styling was better on the Ducati (personal opinion of course). All I said was that it was new approach, not specifically Ducati's new approach!:p However they did "rubber stamp" the look as such. After all they used it for nearly a decade. How long in comparison did the 'onda last? On your second point, you're right, I should have clarified that statement. I was referring to looks only. BUT suffice to say after speaking to the factory directly - power, weight and especially torque will keep us all grinning.:) Quote:
Ahh, completely destructive and dismissive crticism - in your expert opinion!:) As I said, just my opinion. In my position I have ridden all the Ducs you could shake a stick at and honestly love most of them. I'm just a big Duc fan! (surprisingly!!:) ) As a lot of folks know on this board I have a 749R at the mo' (after a string of other 74* and 99*'s) and have held onto that for the last three seasons because it's fantastic but on seeing the 1098 in MCN (the pics on the net are nowhere near as good or as clear) i'm thrilled to bits. So cobblers? No. I've heard all too often, opposition on the showroom floor from people about the looks of the 999 and how it should be more like the 916. Well thats what we've got. I thought I would back that up with my thoughts. Mart |
I'm sorry, I just haven't got the energy to be constructive today. Destructive and dismissive was all I could manage! And (as a long term BUYER of Ducatis, both new and "pre-owned") - my opinion is just as expert as anyone else's. |
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the end can of the 999 was shaped in a wind tunnel. |
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Gasp. |
I like it..............Big time..............:D :D In the showrooms in "a couple of weeks " :D 1098 = £12,000 1098S = £14,000 |
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;) Fair 'nough mate - I have days like that too!!:) Quote:
Perhaps - i'm simply trying to offer is a view from someone who has dealt with literally thousand of queries, questions, complaints and praise for the whole of the Ducati legacy and as a long term buyer myself I can associate with the rest of the buying public, albeit from a different point of view. Take it for what it is mate, i'm only trying to help. :) |
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I take it you did not know that then? |
I had a look at the pictures in MCN today and it looks better there than the pictures on this thread, they give a better idea of the look from the back. I look forward to seeing it in the metal |
once we have all calmed down with these masive power figures & styling bits etc etc,ducati say the have gave us what we want? i remember reading "most" ducati (& non ducati owners) wanted a bike thats cheaper to service? |
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you dont seem to like the 1098 either? http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/sh...t=38550&page=3 So what do you like? Apart from being negative/critical/dismissive/rude |
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i think some people find it very hard to accept that others can have a differnt opinion why they then feel the need to p1$$ over other peoples hard earned dreams is quite beyond me maybe it's a lack of cuddles at home??:lol: |
Can I have it in beige? It certainly makes the Desmosedici RR look amazing, perhaps that's the idea. P.s. I'm hugging the toaster. |
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: |
What`s with the big weld on the swinging arm ? |
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I loved the cast one on the 749/999, but then I just love the whole idea of castings, beautiful way of manufacturing |
Could be FOUR bikes soon then. :lol: :lol: |
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well the 1098 has a die cast swing arm..............so much more refined than these extruded/welded jobs...but seriously this bike would be too much for me, am not a good enough rider |
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they sure Did,, In the showrooms in "a couple of weeks " 1098 = £12,000 1098S = £14,000 "Keep it real" I have actually rode a bike with 176 BHP and You cant keep the furkin thing pointing in a str8 line!!!! and when you do it just leaves long black lines down the middle of the road!!! really enjoyable to ride on the road, My ar55e! "power is nothing without control" hope the new Duke puts it all down on the tarmac propper! cause if it dont your gonna be on ya ass!! ps my missus looks like kate Moss when I'm pi55ed and squinting !! The 916 is iconic and will never be replaced Like the 92 Fireblade it was a bench mark ! cant be replaced and never will look as good , thats what has made it what it is !! Jmo mav |
Only just a Monster owner but aint the bike just a 999 with a single sider and a different fairing Ducati have totally lost their way on this, as one who has always dreamt of owning a 999 but due to physical limitations has not been able to have one I feel that the forward thinking of the 999 has been destroyed by the die in the wood 916 brigade who would still have us wearing flares and afro hair styles. Obviously going to be one hell of a bike but definately a retrograde step in my opinion. Ian |
Well I like the way it looks from the pictures, but will reserve judgement until I see it in the metal. I won't be buying one mind since I don't see anyway of putting panniers on it................ As for other things stated, Mav has it right on the button, I remember reading something written by a 'ring instructor some years ago where he stated that for 70% of the 'ring you can't use more than 45bhp. He used to kick most people's butt using a 500cc Gilera Saturno which has 45bhp-at the crank-so about 37ish at the wheel. Now I have a Saturno and it is flat out at about 110 so it's not a fast bike-Power is Nothing without Control! Martin, you coming to Cadwell for the trackday next year?-missed you this year mate, dates are 20th and 21st August. John |
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I like 750F1s, 851s, 888s, 916s, 996s, 998s and Monsters. I don't like 999s, Multis, Sport Classics or (indeed) the 1098. Is that ok? Thanks. BC |
Mav Your so right...........................let common sense prevail! |
Well i think it looks great.but will be seeing it in the flesh in Millano next thursday and i'm taking my credit card. More pics and details on the Moto Rapido website |
Really like the looks of it, I can't believe the hp claims tho. To compete with an IL4 litre bike they will need 165 at the rear wheel, maybe the R will have that but then spend £20k on a litre 4 and you would have more. Playing a hp/performance game with the Japanese is a big mistake and they can only lose. To spend £12k on a sportsbike I would have to have the best performance and this hasn't got it. If it was £8k I'd consider it as the looks are very nice even if they have styling cues from other bikes, the 916 was copied from the RC30 and NR750 and that didn't stop people buying it ! |
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That means you have not liked one design since 1993/4. |
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No I haven't, and it's not something I'm pleased or happy about. I have three (very) expensive Ducatis in my garage, two were made in 1992 and one in 2000. I only got into biking so I could ride Ducatis, I've never owned anything else (apart from a - very - brief episode with a TL1000S) and I'd rather give up riding than ride a Japanese bike. So you could say I'm a big enthusiast, even though I'm sure it often doesn't sound like it. BC. |
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Funnily enough it was the 749 that got me into riding.......funny old world innit? |
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