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Originally Posted by banoffee

I have a 1000K5 and am tempted with 1098S...

Keep the K5 and go test ride the 1098... see what you think !! booked to ride one in january so not going to rush into it !!! all i would say is its going to need to be really great for me to change !!!

I've missed my 996R for ages. the 749/999 shape didn't do it for me but the 1098S is gorgeous. Ideally would want both the K5 (for day to day) and the S for sunny days / looking at :)

I'm tempted by a K5 or K6 1000!

:D

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Originally Posted by TP

I'm tempted by a K5 or K6 1000!

:D

"Good habits result from resisting temptation" ;)

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Originally Posted by Rattler

"Good habits result from resisting temptation" ;)

And resist I shall ....

Until I can afford one! :D :D

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Originally Posted by TP

I'm tempted by a K5 or K6 1000!

:D

i've got a k5 1000 for sale,only done 597 miles,if anyones interested !!!!!

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Originally Posted by Simon Reed

i've got a k5 1000 for sale,only done 597 miles,if anyones interested !!!!!

Wanna swap it for an 06 Blade only 597 miles? ;)

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Originally Posted by Simon Reed

i've got a k5 1000 for sale,only done 597 miles,if anyones interested !!!!!

Zero deposit, interest free and nothing to pay until July 07?

:lol:

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Originally Posted by Monty

Actually Nigel it is piston area and ratio of piston area to stroke that really determines the power output-because piston SPEED is the real limiting factor-valve area is just a small part of that. You are correct though, small cylinders with short stroke can rev higher and therefore flow more gas for a given piston speed-that is why Ducati has been shortening stroke and increasing bore to get more revs and therefore power whilst not exceeding the limits of piston speed. The problem with that is that there is a limit to how big the bore can go before you start to get the gasflow stalling and therefore again limiting the cylinder filling.
The actual ratio is I believe 1:.736 for a twin versus a 4 in terms of thermodynamic efficiency-in other words a 736cc 4 verses a 1000cc twin-so under the old original Superbike rules the 4 cylinder bikes already had an advantage-the twins should have been allowed to be 1019cc to keep it strictly fair. So with 1000cc 4's the twins should be allowed 1358.7cc!

Nigel just re-read your post and noticed your reference-seems we have read the same work although I am sure it was a Honda engineer-pretty much the same result though. It always hacks me off as well the way that some people keep banging on about Ducati cheating because they have a bigger engine-the same voices will no doubt call it cheating if Ducati decides to race the Desmosedici in Superbike-I have been told they won't but personally wish they would just to shut certain sections up.

John

Thanks for the clarification John...can you find the reference work? I would like to use it elsewhere. There's nothing like beating ignorance with some knowledge, is there? ;) I love this sort of technical stuff.

If I recall correctly, Suzuki took the bore:stroke ratio too far with the first Slingshot Gixxer 750 motor and completely messed things up - with later motors they reduced the bore and lengthened the stroke again.

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Originally Posted by dave w

Dont even what to think about it !!! But i think its around 17k mark including the bike... sounds mad i know..But its so well sorted and would blow my old 999r into the weeds in all areas... after owning a 999r that cost 21k that spent most of the time in bits in a workshop !!! or not running very well !! 3 oil leaks..poor finish..breaking down etc kind of puts you off... But it did look stunning !!!!!!lets hope they got it right with the 1098 !!!!time will tell.

I also hope they have it right this time, I guess we will have to wait for the "R" version to appear, if all the hype re what it will have as standard it should be world beating, time will tell.

I also wait with great eagerness next years superstock racing, guess that will lay a benchmark for what is to come.

Chris:burn:

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Originally Posted by Rattler

Wanna swap it for an 06 Blade only 597 miles? ;)

Sorry Tim,but i will swap it for £6000 cash !!!,& you can have the fireblanket,for your wet bike !!!

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Originally Posted by dave w

Try these...

Mate that is bike porn! Nice bike... I dont care if its Jap its fing nice!!!