:lol::lol::lol:

Yes, exactly.

I know the risks when I speed and I am willing to take the punishment should I get caught - I've never said otherwise.

yeh right......

calm down, calm down
 

perhaps what everybody should be aware of is that dibble and I spoke on the phone this morning, it would not be right to quote him, - as he could do it himself, - but I for one have absolutely no problem with him, - so don't read too much into what looks like a bit of a spat here. It really is not what it perhaps appears. SteveM has got it exactly right; - the written word can often read as harsher than it is intended to be.

Regarding opinions bradders, - I do not see anywhere in my reply to his original post is anything that suggests that he is not entitled to his opinion, - I have corrected what I believed to be incorrect facts and reasons, - that is all. As I know him perhaps I have pushed a friendship a bit further with Pietro than somebody that I did not know by standing up to his views, - but he I believe knows where I am coming from, - and he understands the line I have to take. To have disregarded his opinion would have been to post a reply and lock the thread or to have deleted it. If it is an opinion I have disagreed with, - am I as an individual or as a representative of the MT not allowed to do so? Differing opinions are not a problem on this board. Perhaps my error was to have used the "webteam" login as a continuation of this debate when I should have used a personal one.

And DJ, of course I knew it was a 998, just seeing if you were paying attention. Cough, cough.

Ian

cant be bothered now...think I'll clean the bike instead

just heard that Venus is passing in front of the sun tomorrow, - they said it has something to do with a new phase and getting rid of troubles that are hanging in there, roll on venus. :bouncy:

Sorry mate, but I stick to what I said that I know the risks and would take my punishment, as I have done in the past.

My licence has also been clean now for at least 10 years.

Feel free to search through my posts - the search function is at the top of each page - and refresh yourself with what I have previously posted. What I do advocate, which is where you may be getting confused, is the use of a knowledgeable brief to minimise the fall-out from a nick, and offerred scenarios which may help in mitigation.

Well said mate,

I enjoyed some of vmans posts and got a bit miffed by some, i beleive in live and let live and personally would have liked to have kept vman on board for entertainment value, BUT i can fully appreciate the MT having to take a stand and do what they did. The board is a public for forum for the majority. Enough warnings from various people were given and not heeded. Even though i may be criticised for following the herd but this is a club and we must follow what the elected members want. Its primararliy about riding Ducati's.

I was looking forward to meeting vman at the BMF but that didn't happen.

I've had various run ins with the police, but also have good friends who are in the job, its not an easy one, you can't tar everyone with the same brush.

I think its time to lay this one to rest, and wish vman good luck with his New Monster.

Dibble, i don't know you from Adam, i konow you met vman, but please reconsider your resignation.

lets enjoy our bikes, riding, and the pleasure we get, and that comes from someone who comes out with some inane crap on the board at times but hopefully it's all taken in context.

Credo
 

From the front page of the Club Desmo website:

Please be respectful, patient, and helpful when using this site! Blasting someone in our "online" community isn't always the path needed to communicate. Take some time and be a little more forgiving of others that use this site as a conduit to the Life & Family of Ducati owners & lovers! Please have fun-be informative-share wisdom-and make this a board that maintains a modicum of civility, unlike many of the other boards.

Works for me

:mad:Which is all well and good, but in one of the threads deleted you and Antonye went out of your way to wind up V man!! You made comments about his profession along the lines of a "pathetic crimper" ... and then are surprised when he goes out for full retaliation!!!

And no, I can't prove it , as the thread has been convieniantly removed.

Henners, those who live by the sword, die by the sword. But FFS don't claim the moral high ground.

At the end of the day this BB has suffered from heavy handed policing, whether you feel that is right, and makes it a nicer place or wrong, and more of a private club, is up to the individual

HELLO THIS IS BIG BROTHER WILL ALL OF THE WEBTEAM PLEASE COME TO THE DIARY ROOM :mad:

As I said above, I admit that I baited him in the past but it was always in response to his own posts, rather than setting out from the off to do it.

This is the problem with a lot of the loud-mouthed posters - they can dish it out all day but once someone starts giving it back they just can't take it.

I know it's petty and childish (I got told off too you know!) but if someone wants to have a go at winding me up then I felt I was quite within my rights to defend both myself and my family, which is where the posts were aimed as you may well remember.

Could it have been handled better? Yes.
Should it have happened in the first place? No.

I may be getting soft in my old age, but I expect a certain level of respect for others from anyone, no matter what their status or thoughts. You would expect that someone coming onto a public forum would at least have the decency to treat others with respect no matter who they are or what they do for a job - otherwise they make themselves look stupid without any help from others!

PP - I'm not proud of what I did on that one night. Eamonn had the good sense to cancel my authority to post and clean the mess up. In mitigation this was my one and only transgretion. I have worked long hours for this club over the last two years, re-energised the Surrey region as RO, helped support the start of the Sussex region, worked with the webteam to get the improvements you now see on this board and regularily give up large chunks of my weekends to doing the membership secretary job.

Then I saw Vman udoing all that hard work and I saw red. I'm sorry for what I did and it won't happen again. I put that note up as a reminder of what I want the club to be - as a reminder to myself as much as for anyone else.

In the spirit of comradeship will you please accept my apology so we can all move on?

PS Vman emailed me yesterday for an application form. I have sent him one adding the reminder that if he joins he will have to live by the rules of the club and not bring it into disrepute. I hope he feels able to respond positively.

This not my battle to fight. You guys seem to have put in a lot of effort to maintain the BB.

Perhaps "characters" make these pages, but a sanity check is always good.

I was sort of pro Vman, I thought he was being picked on by "the inner sanctum". But I read some of his posts ...And the plea for some sort of readers wives page was probably the banal thing I have read outside of The Sun.

I like the buzz that interesting points of views give, and sooner or later peer group, or waking up and realising you are being a tw4t normally keeps things in check ....

However, a little bit of fun, and slightly less "Cadders" round here might make it a bit more interesting!

But this has been doen to death.

So, who's gonna win the European Championships then?

football....... please.. now we are talking about a load of boring clueless non sportsmanlike, overpaid dull brains!

I think England has got about as much chance of winning that as me getting a desmoRR.....

Yeah, rock on, andyb!
Why does it cost so much to go watch a game of football anyway? You can sit in the cinema for a couple of hours and see something you've not seen before for just a fiver! :lol:

If he joins the club, does that mean he'll be allowed back on the board?

Henners, well said, and top marks. There are a few trying like hell to get the club better and bigger profile. Ranging from launching regions, BMF, track days and dyno runs. This all takes time, and effort from these people, sometimes at their own expense. To me, i want to stand up, and be counted. And put back into this club what I have got from it.

I relate to that night, and i agreed with you. I think we're all aloud once in a while to rant when hard work is seen to be un done.

Yes. Vman has apologised to the club for any previous indescretions and an application form is on it's way to him.

Henners,
Well said, but letting the "V" one join? is this one of those "keep your friends close but your enemies closer" type of thing?

Nah Chief ...
 

.. make love not war :lol:

Think I sort of agree with the Pieman as characters make a club and it looks as though we may have lost one of them - you know who I mean and its a real shame.

Some of what vman said was twaddle and needed to be treated in that manner. Other parts of it were intended to get a reaction and to test out where the line was. Just like a child who pushes and pushes until they get the reaction they seek. I'm pleased to see that he is being allowed back to join us.

I think that there may have been some overzealous policing recently and maybe this does need to be reviewed as some of the banter has been lacking lately.

Anyway the club is not just about the message board its more about getting out on the bikes with your mates and I've met loads of good ones through this club.