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JasonBoswell 09-Jun-2005 13:58

Here's a thought - dont do anything at all !

Let the roads continue to clog up until by natural churn people start to use alternative forms of transport.

What I mean is, we make a decision to use the car because we tolerate the 'congestion' on our journey... however, there will come a point where individually, or corporately, we decide we cant tolerate it any longer and either go via some other means or not at all. Over time, traffic will find a natural level and adjust itself accordingly.

Simple rule of supply and demand.

MJS 09-Jun-2005 14:02

I don't think there is an easy solution to congestion, not one that everyone will be happy with.
The bottom line is far more of us live further away from our work than we did 30 or 40 years ago. The days of a job for life, where you could reasonably live in the same town, are gone. There are no jobs local to home for me, so I have to travel to work, but there isn't the security when I get there to persuade me to relocate, so I travel and help cause the congestion.
I seem to recall the government wants a 'modern, flexible workforce', but they don't want it on the roads. If and when congestion gets so bad that I really can't do the journey anymore, then I'll reconsider my living/working arrangements, so in a way, congestion should be kind of self-regulating.

VanDaMauler 09-Jun-2005 14:09

This is Labour we are talking about here right?

The kings of "spin" ?

Cant you see what this is?

Its an extreme Idea, that wont come to pass, Its extreme enough to get us all talking and worrying.

Its to make a policy that they will introduce seem like the better option and less harsh, where as if they introduced it, without out all this "spin" it would seem really bad.

Does that make any sense?

I dont know what the real thing will be, But I do feel this is being done to soften the blow.


Its abit like a Doctor saying "you have HIV" and then coming back an hour later and saying" Actually, its only Herpes" :smug:

[Edited on 9-6-2005 by Bubbles]

JPM 09-Jun-2005 14:11

disinformation?

Felix 09-Jun-2005 14:16

You could summarise the UK government with:

Never have so few done so little for so many. Yet spend obscene amounts of money to provide no benefit.

Cost vs. benefit analysis are not something this government is familiar with, it seems. There is absolutely no proof that a) this system will ever work, b) the true costs can be even estimated, c) it will make any difference whatsoever!

Another great idea of this government is the ID card. Just another brain-dead idea that will cost huge amounts of money and probably make things worse.

Time to make plans to move elsewhere...

VanDaMauler 09-Jun-2005 14:29

Quote:

Originally posted by Felix


Time to make plans to move elsewhere...


Or just take to the streets, Time we had another poll tax esq riot I think.

Just like the Gatso backlash thats coming,they will be pulled down soon, alot of states in the US have banned their use, as the cause more accidents then they prevent, panic braking etc.

Its just another "fantastic" idea fron the Idiots in power to get more money from us, whever it works or not.:mad::mad::mad:

ariel 09-Jun-2005 14:39

How long are the people of this country going to tolerate these ****ers?

guest1 09-Jun-2005 14:42

Quote:

Originally posted by Bubbles
Its abit like a Doctor saying "you have HIV" and then coming back an hour later and saying" Actually, its only Herpes" :smug:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Ray 09-Jun-2005 15:12

They just got voted back in so it looks like we are lumbered for at least another four years, just enough time for another few thousand half baked policies.

Is it possible to declare you own house an independant state and install yourself as its president?!

Whole countries got away with it a while ago?

Any revolutionaries on here got any advice?

Ray

PB 09-Jun-2005 17:34

My thinking on a simplistic basis:

The population is not increasing.

Car (vehicle) ownership per capita is at or near its eventual limit (in terms of numbers on the road at any given moment).

Therefore design & construct a road network with adequate capacity: Once implemented, it simply(!) needs to be maintained........


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