v man
 

ive just read you posts WOW !!!!!!!

i'm head strong

But you mate

take the ****....

cant wait too meet you!:lol::lol::lol::lol:


There are some good lads and gals on here !

and all you have done is take the ****

Think i will take a ride down your "20" in the sumer ! if i can get my invalid car started :lol: as at 44 i must have been doing sommat wrong in my riding! (why) because i'm still riding:lol::lol:


the point most of you have missed some people have got it !!
and some people will never have it (instinct)

v man you have obviously got more than you need !!!!!!!!!!

Tossa ......... give me a call when you wanna meet
:cool::cool: regards MAD MAV

Hey Guys,

I think we're all being more than a little harsh on Vman.

Anybody who has his choice of four wheeled transport and his attitude is more deserving of our compassion than criticism. A more illustrative example of the abject failure of this government's "Care in the Community" initiative would be hard to find.

By the way Vman I should warn you that the web-site at foot of MadMav's post is neither a pictorial nor editorial celebration of what perhaps many hairdressers more normally engage in as a hobby! :lol::lol::lol:

Oh by The way
 

TOSSA !!

means
TODAY
OBSERVE
SPEED
SKILL
AWARENESS


just incase you thought i was offering someone out!!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I've done CSS

Gunning it up to a corner? No...just the opposite in fact, getting your braking, entry speed and turn in points sorted

Step out on you mid corner for an emergency stop? Er nope....haven't been taught that at CSS either.

Mind you, I've only done levels 1, 2 and 3. Perhaps I need to wait until level 4 for all that.

wow this is good!!:lol::lol:
go on vman say summit else
i wouldn't let that mav talk to you like that, go on use your wit on him
and what about that jools, level 3 indeed!! big show off.

:lol::lol::lol:Nice one Glynn, Cracked up when i read that you evil person:devil:

Where's KB to do a bit more agitating:D

[Edited on 23-2-2004 by bigdaftgeordie]

HEY luckywhiteheather
 

YOU leave my RING out of this !!!!!!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Have i missed something with Fiat punto's?

:lol::lol::lol:

Shame this has gone so far off topic :lol:

I'm an observer at WVAM who are the Wey Valley branch of IAM that meet at Ripley.
CK, sorry you found it cliquey, how long ago did you go ?
You might find things have changed now.
You could also be surprised at just how many of us have dukes, just they don't always come out for the observing ;)

On the track training front, last week we had Andy Ibbot and his sidekick Johnny 'the *******' (well that's what they called him when I did my Cali track days :D ) give a talk at our club night.

He conceded that some of what they teach is not applicable to road riding, but things such as wideview can help.

For those that have never been to a meet, IAM are not all barbour suited bmw or pan riders. around 80% of the bikes are sports or sports tourers. You are right that there are lots of Viffers, but that's cos as a club they do lots of touring trips, and the viffer is perfect for these (er, ask me how I know :D ). I should add these trips are graded on, well, speed of progress ranging from steady to advanced. fyi advanced is 996 against the stop in some circumstances :devil:

Closing comment is that passing the IAM Advanced test or getting Rospa Gold still won't help in some circumstances (we get it wrong occasinally too) but it will help you become more aware of the hazards enabling you to 'make progress' safer.
Sorry, I'll leave it there. Lecture over. If you want to know more U2U me or come along to a meet :)

Cheers,
John.

I have found my racing has helped restore my confidence on the road as it has allowed me to explore the limits of my own abilities and those of the bike and tyres in a fairly safe enviroment.
After decades on the roads I have built up a good awareness of what is happening around me, but following a few accidents, one resulting in a broken fema and another in fractured and crushed vertabrae I found my confidence had taken a knock. This really highlighted itself when out riding with the same mates that I had been riding with for the past 15 years, suddenly I wasn't prepared to follow them through corners at the same speed as I use to prior to the accidents and found I was getting in the way of those following behind me to the point where I would wave them through. They were all very understanding and never moaned about having to wait for me.
It was myself that wasn't happy with the way I was riding so I decided I needed to do something about it. As I was already spannering for a couple of them at Club races it made sense for me to have a go myself. My first race meeting I did 4 races finished last in 3 of them and next to last in the other thanks to the guy in front running of the track and rejoining behind me. I am glad to say that I have improved since thenbut still do not consider myself fast on the race track as my survival instinct governs my corner speed although I do get it wrong sometimes and up up on the floor but at least I can put my finger on why I crashed, more often than not I made a mistake usually riding beyond my limits.
All this has restored my confidence in what a bike is able to do so when coupled with my experience of decades of reading the roads it allows me to ride the roads faster than I did a few years back, althogh I still believe I'm not as fast as when I was a reckless teenager, thankfully there was know where near as much traffic around in those days so all the silly crashes on roundabouts etc I walked away from ( would have been less if they had folding footpegs in those days and if Avon SMs had more grip)

So yes riding on the track can help your road riding, but there are a lot of differences between the two and certain elements have to be seperated out. As I have explained to people just starting racing they know how to ride a bike they now have to learn to race and as Weeksy found out this can be a painful lesson, it took me a while and one day I may get it right.
Main thing is ride safe and enjoy yourself no matter where you ride or what your riding

Kev