.............but cheaper than wives:roll:

A quick look on Biketrader throws up a few 2008 bikes for over £4.5k... So I'm sure you can pick them up for £4k.

The reason I won't go to A is because I don't see it as a big enough step from B. The bikes are not much newer and the power isn't a lot more (sure, they are better than B, but just not enough for my liking. I mentioned at the end of last year that I would almost definitely move to A (or whatever it was called) if we could go with a newer model.

As for forcing people out of B, maybe limit to 2-3 years for anyone finishing in the top 3-5 places. Time related for everyone wouldnt work because if someone isn't comfortable/fast in B, why would they want to move up?

If you have power to weight rules a 696 could well be the bike of choice for the more affluent but would leave other options for the techys amongst us & not make the present bikes obsolete:)

you better keep that 848 then ;)

out of interest, of the novices that came in to DD not having raced before (or hardly) how many have gone on to race elsewhere? I can think of rattler, sam west, dom clegg

if not many do and the rules restrict them in B will they just stop racing?

I like power to weight idea - a nice 800 in mine to keep up with the likes of 6 stone Craig ;)

So many good ideas, I dont think people join class B as a step on the racing ladder to greater things. People join DD and particulrly class B as it has a nice friendly feel to the paddock.

I think people are quite happy racing ib B year after year and would only move to class A if that had the same friendly and cheap feel to it. I have considered going to A to help me with my power to weight problem. Lets facing I would guess my bike is having to pull 3 or four stone in weight over most people around me.

696 would be a good idea but at £4K before any modifications it is too much for me. If there were £3K race prepped 696s then that would work.

Power to weight ration that included current A class bikes would allow those bikes to carry on and allow people to modify their B classes to be eligible??

Mark

£4.5k is for a cherished road bike... I'm sure you could find a scrappy one that had been dropped for half that... Let's face it, it might get dropped again! If this is seriously a possibility, it would be nice to sort it out now so that I can sort out my bike in plenty of time. I don't want a New Year rush job.

Power to weight could get messy if you ask me. I'd rather keep it as a sort of one make thing to keep it simple for the less techy newbies, and to keep checking eligibility as straight forward as possible.

As a novice surely power to weight would also be the easiest to enforce. Requires a set of scales and dyno!

A good way of dicussing this would be at one of the two day meets. That way we can all get together.

I also think skinny riders should have to add ballast to their bikes to make it a bit evener :) :lol:

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It's messy as it is! to many rules, power to weight any air cooled Ducati one rule how easy is that to control;) Bemsee do it with Thunder bikes works fine.
The less techy can just buy a 696 as you would like to do Ron & every one's a winner:) well maybe:D:

If it is power/weight I could just have the Nemesis on my 848 tweaked to limit power and give me shedloads of torque! ;)

Power/weight on the surface is straightforward, but the whole one-make/limited changes rule keeps things sensible on other costs - such as shocks/forks etc. If we are limited to small changes on one machine any amount of money shouldn't give anyone a real advantage (I think that is the main point of the series). Otherwise we just end up being another Minitwins/thunderbikes. I would like to keep things simpler than that.... it is the main reason I joined DD in the first place rather than any other series. I didn't have to know a lot about bikes... I could just go buy one and race knowing I could be competitive. If we mess with that, we could lose what the series is about (in my opinion).

Remember that when we started DD back in 2005 there were a few people that went out and dropped £5.5k on a new Monster / SS 620 to take part, as they were brand new out then.