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spartacus 24-Mar-2005 16:00

Wonder if my calipers got sent to brembo for comparison... or whether they just got binned. You'd think it'd be worth their (and our) while to compare them since they have had the exact same fault... both LHS i think?? Guess mine and Twinfans were stable mates on the production line.
Went out to wales on it last weekend, and just didn't have the confidence in the brakes so I may yet chop it in for a Jap bike if i can't regain the confidence. To think a Ducati was the bike I always wanted, and now this...

Twinfan 24-Mar-2005 16:07

It's a shame mate, it really is. The psychological thing about the brakes will go with time - you've got to keep telling yourself it's fixed now.

Who knows about your callipers - maybe there are several sets there being examined??? Mine is a RHS problem not LHS, not sure what yours was?

necroscope 24-Mar-2005 16:10

from I could tell it was the left disc that seized as it was badly discoloured, i'm not sure about the right hand side. Even the AA guy who picked it up commented on it, said he'd only ever seen it happen to car drivers who had decided to drive with the hand brake on.

Twinfan 24-Mar-2005 16:16

Any news on yours necroscope? Are Ducati replacing eveything for you?

necroscope 24-Mar-2005 16:28

Quote:

Originally posted by Twinfan
Any news on yours necroscope? Are Ducati replacing eveything for you?

Not a dicky bird. I had to email a scan of my first service coupon this morning. To be honest, being that it's almost easter and what is happening with you, i.e. the brakes being sent to brembo, I don't hold out my hope of seeing my bike for another week or so. No doubt it'll be the warmest, sunniest easter on record!

Twinfan 24-Mar-2005 16:31

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I had to email a scan of my first service coupon this morning

You had to prove your bike was still under warranty then? I take it the dealer you're using didn't do the first service on the bike?

Strange, but I guess that's procedure.

necroscope 24-Mar-2005 17:17

no, it was the same place I bought the bike. I think he was trying to second guess Ducati, and maybe speed up the process by having the info at hand just incase.

TP 24-Mar-2005 17:18

Quote:

Originally posted by necroscope
no, it was the same place I bought the bike. I think he was trying to second guess Ducati, and maybe speed up the process by having the info at hand just incase.

Shouldn't he already have a copy of it then?

:puzzled:

Twinfan 24-Mar-2005 17:24

That's what I thought - it would be on their records? Ah well, if it was the dealer asking then it doesn't matter.

Wylie1 24-Mar-2005 17:33

Quote:

Originally posted by Twinfan
Quote:

I had to email a scan of my first service coupon this morning

You had to prove your bike was still under warranty then? I take it the dealer you're using didn't do the first service on the bike?

Strange, but I guess that's procedure.

This isn't a warranty issue - it's one of safety. Fair enough, there are procedures, but potentially people could be killed. We're talking about brake calipers here, not flakey paint on the tank. Ducati (ultimately) & Brembo should be pulling out all the stops to get to the bottom of this before somebody gets killed or seriously injured.

David Cook 24-Mar-2005 17:37

Ducati UK's Peter Brooking (Manager, Marketing & After Sales) has been in touch with me with the following information:

"The situation at the moment is that following discussions with Mr Jackson and the insurance underwriters involved, we have recently been given permission to remove the relevant components from the machine. These have now been sent to the factory and once we have received their comments we will then discuss the matter with Mr Jackson.

We wish to re-assure members of the Club that we are taking this matter seriously & our priority is the safety of our customers. As will be appreciated, we are at present unable to comment on the outcome of the inspection of the parts. However, whilst the matter is being investigated, should any owners have concerns regarding their own machine they should in the first instance discuss the matter with their Ducati dealer who will then contact us as necessary.

Thank you for your co-operation."

necroscope 24-Mar-2005 17:37

There's been a few people in the course of this thread who've been wondering if anyone at Ducati are listening or reading these boards.... Well having spoken to Hurst's a couple of minutes ago, I can categorically state that YES - Ducati do read these boards! Apparently the Scottish rep phoned Hurst's to tell them about this thread, so now I'll have to watch my p's & q's. Maybe somebody will tell DM and Twinfan will receive a call about the availabilty of a coutesy bike. Kinda makes you feel good knowing that people power still exists.

By the way - Hurst's rock!

JPM 24-Mar-2005 17:46

Quote:

Originally posted by necroscope
There's been a few people in the course of this thread who've been wondering if anyone at Ducati are listening or reading these boards.... Well having spoken to Hurst's a couple of minutes ago, I can categorically state that YES - Ducati do read these boards! Apparently the Scottish rep phoned Hurst's to tell them about this thread, so now I'll have to watch my p's & q's. Maybe somebody will tell DM and Twinfan will receive a call about the availabilty of a coutesy bike. Kinda makes you feel good knowing that people power still exists.

By the way - Hurst's rock!

Or Ducati's reputation on the line?

Imagine if say someone out there with said 749/999 was killed and the police were to get involved, bike gets impounded and forensics get involved and identify a faulty brake component... Huge press exposure, good-bye sales...

This is all hypothetical, and if anything these are hopefully isolated incidents, and from what we know so far no-one has been seriously hurt.

The good news is Twinfan has been offered a bike, and it looks like the powers that be are getting involved and communicating to the masses.

Good work Ducati UK

Twinfan 24-Mar-2005 19:02

Quote:

...it looks like the powers that be are getting involved and communicating to the masses.

Good work Ducati UK

Well said JPM :)

And thanks David/Peter for the message from Ducati UK.

[Edited on 24-3-2005 by Twinfan]

Greybloke 25-Mar-2005 21:48

Eek, thought I'd waved goodbye to quality / design problems when I sold the Benelli:puzzled:

As mine is an 04 749 Dark I suppose mine could also be affected. Be very interested to hear the Brembo or factory investigations.

Good luck in your persuit of answers, were all watching with interest

mab 28-Mar-2005 23:50

Quote:

Originally posted by necroscope
There's been a few people in the course of this thread who've been wondering if anyone at Ducati are listening or reading these boards.... Well having spoken to Hurst's a couple of minutes ago, I can categorically state that YES - Ducati do read these boards! Apparently the Scottish rep phoned Hurst's to tell them about this thread, so now I'll have to watch my p's & q's. Maybe somebody will tell DM and Twinfan will receive a call about the availabilty of a coutesy bike. Kinda makes you feel good knowing that people power still exists.

By the way - Hurst's rock!

Just bought my 749s off Hursts so its good to see the positive remarks!

However, do you know they are loosing the ducati dealership? (and the kawasaki one)

Yes indeedy, soon they will be official yamaha dealers only!
:sniff:



[Edited on 28-3-2005 by mab]

jobr 29-Mar-2005 00:02

strange for such a big firm as Hursts with so many car franchises to let Ducati go! Who is getting the franchise in the North????????

[Edited on 28-3-2005 by jobr]

sonic 29-Mar-2005 19:41

Just read this thread on the brakes issue, been doing some miles (800) on my new 749 Dark (04) and every so often been noticing a judder on the brakes which seems to be getting more pronounced, its only happened a couple of times recently (which I put down to road surface), but Ill definately be taking it to the dealer to check it out now. Thanks all, could just have saved me £££ (and limbs) by reading this....

Twinfan 29-Mar-2005 22:21

No probs - get it checked :)

Sorted out my Monster loan bike - I should pick it up later this week. No further news on my brakes yet.

necroscope 31-Mar-2005 11:05

Quote:

Originally posted by jobr
strange for such a big firm as Hursts with so many car franchises to let Ducati go! Who is getting the franchise in the North????????

[Edited on 28-3-2005 by jobr]
Apparently all of the manufacturers are looking to have a dedicated dealership in Northern Ireland. Until Ducati make a decision regarding Belfast there will only be Ducati Dublin. However, Hurst's will honour all parts and servicing for the forseeable.

Twinfan 31-Mar-2005 13:15

Any more news on your brakes, necro?

necroscope 31-Mar-2005 13:34

Just of the phone - Hurst's still awaiting the go-ahead from Ducati. Not sure if they've been in contact with Brembo.
What about yourself, anyword?

Twinfan 31-Mar-2005 14:06

No news news as yet. Ducati UK went to see my bike and took the brakes away with them. They then got sent to the factory and just before Easter the factory sent them on to Brembo. I'm now waiting for the chain of events to happen backwards and find out what's going to be done with my bike. I speak to my dealer again on Saturday when I hope to pick up my M1000S courtesy bike.

yellerduck 30-Oct-2005 17:12

front brake freeze caused accident
 
Hey I'm new to this forum but am a regular at ducati.ms. I had a wreck a few weeks ago on my 2001 748 and didn't really discover what caused it until yesterday. Before I wrecked I noticed that my bike was "sluggish" or had a lack of power. When I gave it more it just bogged down. I down shifted to 2cd and had the throttle back a bit. The front end came up then back down. The bike went into a tank slapper and I low side on the left side. Well, I finally got the bike back together and rode it yesterday. About the same place I wrecked from my house, bike was doing the same thing described as "sluggish" or "bogging down." Didn't downshift with more power this time. Instead I stoped the bike and noticed that once the power was off that the bike stopped quicker than usual. I tried to move the bike in neutral. It wouldn't budge. Got off and checked the front rotors, they were sizzling hot. The discovery of this was a major revelation of why I wrecked. If you ever feel the bike bogging down and front end diving, don't give it more power! Evidently, I gave it enough to get the front end airborn. Once it came down, the brakes were frozen enough to cause the bike to go into a tank slap. Does anyone have any idea of what I need to do to fix this? I have been told about the fact that water in the brake line could boil causing this problem but I recently changed the fluid. I broke open the calipers and the seals look fine.

Twinfan 31-Oct-2005 10:59

I would check your pads and callipers for a dirt build up or corrosion.

mark749s 31-Oct-2005 12:15

twin fan
what were brembos/ducatis findings, I have read right thro' and can't see the conclusion


Mark

Twinfan 31-Oct-2005 14:14

In my case, there was no fault with any of the braking components on my 749S.

Ducati repaired my bike as a goodwill gesture.

DC 31-Oct-2005 22:18

Quote:

Originally posted by Lily
I remember discusing with someone somtime ago about how they determine if they (generic motor company not ducati) need to recall.

It was something along the lines of cost benefit for the company. They balance up the cost of the recall against the cost of being sued for accidents or even fatalities relating to it.

Don't know how true that was, but pretty scary when you think about it. It wasn't the fact that someone could die, more how much it would cost them if they did!


That sounds like Fight club.;)

yellerduck 31-Oct-2005 23:12

Hey, it is really cool to be emailing to a bunch of fellow Ducatisti's on the other side of the pond!

mark749s 31-Oct-2005 23:28

i have had a couple of cans myself
but what are you on about

yellerduck 01-Nov-2005 01:39

Do you mean what am I riding now? 2001 748.:puzzled:


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