Naaaaa 5lb hammer is boring Paul.

Metal baseball bat is best.

If you get a good rhythm going it is like playing the kettle drum, great symphoney of sounds depending on whether you are striking bone or muscle......:D

12 gauge shell of 2 shot in each knee cap................

ta Frank - not quite as sophisticated as the one I use at work, but nearly;)

edited to say: somebody who knows somebody, says this matter is being resolved

C:saint:

[Edited on 6-11-2005 by CK and AK]