I have the shredded remains of a bib, infact i have two shredded remains :) my sig card got put in washing machine (dont ask) so i was planning on printing out my results and sending them off to newera and asking if they can sign off on them.

I lost/forgot my signatures, so printed off the results, highlighted my name (with a note at the bottom of what position I was in with how many finishers), and sent them straight to the ACU with a covering letter explaining the situation and could they upgrade my licence. New licence arrived a few weeks later.

I meant 10 race events!! DOH

I didnt bother; had 8 signtaures, did 2 more days so 10 done and just applied for the new licence as a clubman. If I attain the giddy heights of a Nationla then I guess I'll need to get the singatures to send to ACU

On the back of your license paul does it say roadrace clubman A or different, i just rang ACU they said just print race results and send in to them.

Not sure if it was ever 10 events, but it was definitely 10 different days last year (so you could gain 2 signatures from the 2 day meetings).

I kinda missed out the Novice to Clubman step, using the 10 signatures instead to go straight from Novice to National. I did use my single result from my first race in 2009 (8th at Donnington), but then I didnt start/finish any of the Championship races at Mallory or Pembrey last year, so it is definitely possible in a year. Anyway, point being that I dont think a novice will definitely still have an Orange vest at the end of his first year (I doubt myself, Neal or Alan did last year and I doubt either of the Matts did the previous year). I think it comes down to a common sense approach. Personally, I would say any more that one round in the previous year excludes you, as should any previous racing (even if it was years ago). I think it would be harsh to exclude someone who has had a "taster" round in a previous year.... but 2 or 3 rounds gets you over that novice hurdle.

If you carry on the way you have been you will have a National Licence by the end of the year easily.

They've got rid of the upgrade signatures now so you need 10 days racing at 3 different circuits even if you win every race it doesn't make a difference. Looking at the rules now anyone who still has an orange vest is going to have theirs until they get the national licence as the requirements are the same...

So, I figure it is only fair that the requirements for eligibility and the rewards for winning are established before the next round at Angelsey.

As the sponsor, the rules are mine to decide as are the rewards!

But being a fair person I guess I should listen to everyones opinions. Even if there are some 'Randoms'.

All ideas will be considered!!

(What have I let myself in for???)

dont think so, think the vest drops still after 10 completed race days then yiou are a clubman racer rather than clubman novice - thats how I read it. The national thing has changed a little too

Just save your time and signatures and apply directly for National. Effectively I went from a Novice Bib wearer to National Licence holder in one easy step.

Simple Rules for Novice Championship (in my opinion):

- Orange Bib wearer
- No more than 1 previous Round experience racing (in any series at any time).

This isn't just because I am mates with Hugh (and did it myself), but a lot of people like to try to get to one round at the end of the year before they compete just to get a feel of things. I don't think that necessarily rules them out as being "experienced"..... and it would be harsh if they were excluded from scoring points in a championship set specifically to encourage new people. Beyond one round though and I think they lose their newbie status.