Uhh, I thought he wasn't charged for speeding. Something else at work here. Sounds like they said he was probably doing over 40 or something and charged for reckless driving.

Gary,

As MD says he wasn't charged with speeding. He was charged with careless driving for doing "nearly 40mph" in their words. But I'll check out the link anyway - there might be something useful there. Thanks.

The speeding thing is out of the window now - no laser, no callibrated follow. The question as has been said earlier is the careless driving and what he did that amounted to it. His driving will have had to have fallen below the standard of a competent driver/rider. So what was it that he did? You need to get a very clear picture of exactly what happened and when from Niall, it may be he has done something obvious without realising it. Was he riding with anyone else? What exactly was he riding, what condition etc. I think you would be well worth getting in touch with your local police station and finding out when the officer concerned is next working. Then get in touch with him and speak to him about it, voice your concerns and ask him the full nature of the incident. He should be more than happy to explain and it'll put your mind at rest to some extent. I'm not suggesting anyone is in the right or wrong without knowing the full situation but it's worth remembering there are two sides to most things and youre better off knowing them both before rushing to conclusions.

You never know, your son Niall may have just been issued a producer and been given a ticking off for whatever. On giving a producer the caution has to be read out (in England at least) and most people who've never been in bother start to panic. Lets just hope he got it wrong in confusion... fingers crossed.

personally, i think all solicitors are bastids, at least the criminal defence ones....geese how do they sleep at night???:puzzled: closely followed by estate agents..what qualifications again?? then there's dentists, all going private, smary sales people.........officious secretaries that want every little detail.

My point is there are bastids everywhere, in fact i could be a bastid?? :lol::lol:

I agree the Police should be Victimised.

Except when you want some help........................;)

I usually call my psyco analyst then...

I usually call my babe for a little psycho therapy in Japanese (psycho babble??) But I tend to agree with rob as his seems to be the most level headed approach. You may also get a read on the officer involved. If you approach as a concerned parent looking for an answer without being accusatory, a professional officer would probably be more than willing to address your issues. If he just fobs you off, then you probably have a rogue on your hands.
My guess is that is not the case.

Guys,
I said I would let you know the outcome of my son's "Careless Driving" charge.

Well he got 5 points and a £200 fine and it could have been much worse!!

Six weeks or so after the incident he got a summons for "Dangerously driving a motorcycle at speeds up to 50mph". Conviction for this would have resulted in a mandatory ban and remained on his licence for 10 years. We of course got a solicitor to act for him. At the plea the Fiscal's Office indicated that they would accept a charge Careless Driving if he pleaded guilty. He was advised not to accept ths and to plead Not Guilty.
As it turned out the Police's evidence was a string of lies. They claimed to have heard a motorcycle accelerating rapidly for some time before he came into veiw. They claimed that they then saw him approach them at a speed up to and exceeding 50mph (at the time the said he was doing nearly 40) and that the roads were particularly busy at the time due a local funfair. They also claimed that they heard his tyres screeching!! The map they presented showed them positioned at a road junction when in fact they were not at the junction but some 15 yds back, behind bushes where the could not have seen Niall or more than a second or two.
He had just come out of a filling station 50yds round the corner and could hardly been accelerating hard for the time they claimed.
The roads were not busy at the time (9.40pm) and they failed to mention that Niall was following a car so was unlikely to have been travelling faster than it. And as for screeching the tyres that was simply added for effect being virtually impossible on a bike unless you're Valentino Rossi.
We also found out that a complaint had been made to the police by some retired senior policeman about youngsters wheelying in a nearby carpark. These two policemen had been sent to investigate and presumably told to catch somebody for it. They didn't find any bikes at the carpark so staked out the road nearby. 12 minutes later Niall was the first young biker that came along and they must have reckoned "this one will do" and set him up.
The trouble is that the Court doesn't take kindly to people saying that the policemen involved are a pair of liars and there's not much could be done since Niall had no witnesses to back him up.
Lessons have been learned from this and we are grateful that Niall didn't get banned as that could have cost him his job as well. Not a nice way to start his motoring career and he will never ever trust a policemen.:flame:

stinky, stinky smell - i know it will leave a bitter taste in everyones mouth (except the coppers - who have "done their job"), but best get on with life.
no consolation i know - but my wife got stopped on her scooter by 2 of our finest (on bikes too??) for turning into oxforD st when she wasn't meant too. got a £30 fine, a talking too because her L plate was broken, told that she would have been done for dangerous driving if she hadn't slowed at the ped. crossing and then lectured for half an hour on.........the merits of an iPod nano (which she was off to buy me for my birthday) i would have thought a warning might have been OK then they could have got on with catching criminals or at least 1 or 2 of the thousands of drivers in london with a mobile glued to their ear. tell your boy not to worry and enjoy riding his bike.