I wonder how much of England's defensive attitude/tactics stems from the influence of Steve McLaren? Is Sven really to blame? Middlesbrough play this way every week if they score first. They sit back and defend like hell. So who's teaching who?

Now it makes sense!

Now it makes sense 2

Now it makes sense 2

Have to confess that my reply isn't from a football fanatic, far from it as I think it is a boring game by and large. The players set a bad example to youngsters with their unsportsmanlike behaviour, they are a bunch of prima donna's, look at the wonder boy Beckhams attempt at scoring a penalty, pathetic isn't in it.

However much patriotism you care to show you can't help but admit that the England team, apart from a few exceptions, played really badly last night. If one of my employees made such a lacklustre attempt at doing a job he was being payed for I think I'd have to put him on notice. These people are given a small (sorry make that obscenely LARGE !!) fortune to play the so called "beautiful" game. They should all be made to pay back any money they've received from attending this championship and go and compete in the world pocket billiards competition.

How is it that we hear of so much trouble at football matches when massive crowds at rugby matches and motor sport events are able to control themselves ??.

Tin hat on :flame::flame:

Nah, my idea is much better :)

I'm with you Paul, it's just not cricket anymore ;)

Didnt see the game but from what i saw in the slo-mo replays on the Beeb this morning of the England player's arm over the goalkeepers shoulder pulling him down I dont see how the goalkeeper could have had a fair chance nor how anybody could complain at the ref's decision?

What did make me laugh was the way they repeated one Brit commentator's exclamation about the way that the "penalty spot MOVED" when Beckham took his kick :lol:

Anyway, let's see if Iban Mayo, Fat Jan, or anybody else for that matter, does the biz on old Lancy in the next few weeks :devil:

At least Greece kicked the bloody Frenchies out :sing::sing::sing::sing::sing::sing::sing::sing::s ing:

No need for this bit. The rest of your post made it obvious :lol:

Fat Jan? I didn't think Ulrich was that big!

I think this years challenge will be biggest from one of his old team mates - th efella tat broke his collarbone last year - for gotten his name?

Anyway, I really hope Lance gets it to be honest, he's been an absolute champion!