Tiger Woods coach doesn't have to keep up with him round the course to see what he's doing tho' ;) ;)

Sorry, I'd love to help ... but Johnny may feed me to the other coaches ...

I doubt Ibbott could keep up with Luthi, but he's still helping him :)

1 style... 1 position...... drills... all the same.. .same braking point... same turn in... same apex.....

everything the same...

you are all assimilated :ninja::borg::borg:

I do have yet another question, if the instruction and CSS way is proved to work and will make me faster why aren't all the instructors who have done all the courses and know all the theories winning at the top level ?

As we know the instructors aren't all winning championships so why not ? They have done all the courses and know all the theory inside out, we are being told css will make us faster and all we need to do is practice so I'm struggling to understand why the css guys aren't the quickest of the lot ?

Genuine question altho it may not have come across as I want it too :)

Johnny H, i'd be more than happy to sit and chat with you fella.... although i may not be the advocate of the school.... i did enjoy my day there.

It seems to me you have a very poor recollection of what gets said on a school day Steve. It differs from my recollection of my days as a student there. I remember talking to Andy about different lines and how they relate to turning points etc - he sent me out and got me turning before the marker and after it so I'd know the difference it made to me. Then you can choose what works best for you - but the important thing is that you now know what works for you and what doesn't, and what the significance of having a turning point is.

If you felt it worked like that why didn't you speak to Paul Debnam about it? You had one of the schools most experienced coaches allocated to you on your day.

TP, i spoke to PAul in depth after each session and spoke to Andy in private during the day and after the day via mail and phone.

At the end of last year I had reached a brick wall, i wanted to lap quicker, needed to corner faster, felt i could go quicker but just didn't know how.

went through levels 2 and 3 earlier in the year and now the wall is on its way down.

I wasn't taught how to race, I was taught several techniques to improve the safety and efficiency of my cornering. I now put in far less effort, know what I am doing much more so than before, and just as importantly why i am doing it.

My track riding is smoother and quicker as a direct result.

Maybe not as quick and smooth as Geoff Spencer (for example) but much better than it was.

For me, it exceeded my expectations and delivered the results i was looking for.

I am not sure however that the regular UK days are as good as the 2 day camps for the development of an already experienced rider/racer due to pupil/student ratio's and the requirement for more detailed/frequent communication.

I'm sure Andy helped a bit, but it's clear to see that Luthi was balistically fast BEFORE Andy came along, and is not super fast BECAUSE Andy came along.

You can't polish a turd...

AND, Luthi finished 25th in 2004 due to non-finishes and injury - not becasue he was slow!!!

[Edited on 24-5-2006 by domski]