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yellowisfriedegg 08-Feb-2005 14:16

The figures for sales for the last year of 998 production and first year of 999 production were quoted by Ducati themselves in MCN and they were very happy with the 999 outselling it's predecessor.

I think the main reason for falling sales is the Japanese competition is getting much better , older blades and GSXR / ZXR 750's were similar performance to a 916 / 96 / 98 at a cheaper price , todays R1 / GSXR1000 / ZX10R are way ahead on power compared to a 999 and still a lot cheaper.

WSB is also no longer a big seller for bikes , as much as I thought (and still do) that Foggy is a complete pratt his success sold an awful lot of Ducatis , I think Rossi's popularity and TV coverage of MotoGP is doing for Honda and Yamaha now what WSB did for Ducati 10 years ago.


.......now , if we could just get Vale to ride a Desmosedici , then watch 'em fly out of the showrooms :sing:

BDG 08-Feb-2005 14:27

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Tim

You must be the 996R's biggest fan.

I am, I was drooling over yours only yesterday!!! Handbuilt engines, world championship winning, rarer than a Desmo Due tyre decision!!;) - fabulous. Wanna sell it?

Yours just needs a good clean!! Oh yeh, and some forks!!!;)

Tim:ninja:

Were you up at Nellys yesterday? What were you upto?

It does need a clean but no point in doing that before Neil puts his oily fingerprints all over it, it'll get minted up on its return.

Shock and forks are away at KAIS at the moment, roll on full service, fresh suspension and better weather.

Sorry, no i don't want to sell it BUT if you fancy a SPS............................................... .................................................. ..........................................

guest1 08-Feb-2005 14:38

Anyone see Shallow Hal t'other night?:frog:

Rattler 08-Feb-2005 14:39

How much for the SPS?

dickieducati 08-Feb-2005 14:39

:lol::lol::lol: very true.

BDG 08-Feb-2005 15:01

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How much for the SPS?

£7995.

In fact the man in the next office wants it for a bit more with the helibars fitted but he can't flog his R1.

Bike sales should pick up in the spring so it will go in the next few months. Did your 996R go to Adam, reading between the lines in a few postings or am i barking (mad) up the wrong tree?

DAVE HARRIS 08-Feb-2005 15:12

to answer the point on a steering differences on the 999 it feels lighter and more flickable on the road but becomes heavy when turning hard at speed on the track, whereas the 998 although apearing to take more effort at road speeds the steering is consistant at higher speeds and faster/harder inputs. I discussed this when the 999 came out with jamie wilkins(journalist) and Paul young and they felt the apparent lower effort was due to the bars being higher and slightly wider allowing greater leverage whilst in a normal riding position. the 998 steers perfectly well if you countersteer correctly with the correct body position, the 999 handlebar position and width allows adequate levaerage even with poor body position and therefore lower leverage that a road riding position requires.
For a faster turn in on iether bike fit metzer racetech? the replacement for rennesports I fitted a set (190/120) to the 999 and the rear tyre has and extremely high profile, so much so that I had to space my hugger and it felt almost twitchy untill I wound up the steering damper a bit.

dave

Rattler 08-Feb-2005 16:36

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Originally posted by Rattler
How much for the SPS?

£7995.

In fact the man in the next office wants it for a bit more with the helibars fitted but he can't flog his R1.

Bike sales should pick up in the spring so it will go in the next few months. Did your 996R go to Adam, reading between the lines in a few postings or am i barking (mad) up the wrong tree?


She did go to Adam and I'm regretting it!!!

Ducnow 08-Feb-2005 18:26

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Originally posted by DAVE HARRIS
to answer the point on a steering differences on the 999 it feels lighter and more flickable on the road but becomes heavy when turning hard at speed on the track, whereas the 998 although apearing to take more effort at road speeds the steering is consistant at higher speeds and faster/harder inputs. I discussed this when the 999 came out with jamie wilkins(journalist) and Paul young and they felt the apparent lower effort was due to the bars being higher and slightly wider allowing greater leverage whilst in a normal riding position. the 998 steers perfectly well if you countersteer correctly with the correct body position, the 999 handlebar position and width allows adequate levaerage even with poor body position and therefore lower leverage that a road riding position requires.
For a faster turn in on iether bike fit metzer racetech? the replacement for rennesports I fitted a set (190/120) to the 999 and the rear tyre has and extremely high profile, so much so that I had to space my hugger and it felt almost twitchy untill I wound up the steering damper a bit.

dave

Great info again. Thanks :)
Have you ever fitted a 180 rear tyre on any of them?
I think it must be great for the track, especially if it's a twisty track.

Rattler 08-Feb-2005 18:37

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Originally posted by DAVE HARRIS
to answer the point on a steering differences on the 999 it feels lighter and more flickable on the road but becomes heavy when turning hard at speed on the track, whereas the 998 although apearing to take more effort at road speeds the steering is consistant at higher speeds and faster/harder inputs. I discussed this when the 999 came out with jamie wilkins(journalist) and Paul young and they felt the apparent lower effort was due to the bars being higher and slightly wider allowing greater leverage whilst in a normal riding position. the 998 steers perfectly well if you countersteer correctly with the correct body position, the 999 handlebar position and width allows adequate levaerage even with poor body position and therefore lower leverage that a road riding position requires.
For a faster turn in on iether bike fit metzer racetech? the replacement for rennesports I fitted a set (190/120) to the 999 and the rear tyre has and extremely high profile, so much so that I had to space my hugger and it felt almost twitchy untill I wound up the steering damper a bit.

dave

Great info again. Thanks :)
Have you ever fitted a 180 rear tyre on any of them?
I think it must be great for the track, especially if it's a twisty track.

A 180 rear is a must really - unless you're running a 6ich rim.

Tim


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