Yup.

Sorry going off topic ;-))

We'll end up getting shot

Hi Phillc,

Apologies for my delay in responding.

A neighbour / friend said he had a brief encounter with the foreign workers and although they spoke very little English he managed to ascertain their country of origin. He said the foreign workers he met were Polish and Bosnians but he doesn’t know where the rest of the workers originated from.

This company is not fussy from which countries they get their cheap labour, they have used people from a wide range of countries including some of the countries you mention. Everyday they use several minibus vans to ferry foreign workers, whether all or some of the workers are legal and or illegal I don’t know.

This is what I witnessed while driving home one day. I looked across a field and saw Police and what appeared to be Immigration and Social Security officials wearing fluorescent yellow jackets en masse questioning workers, some of whom were being put into vans.
Evidently, the Police and other officials had reason to believe that something was amiss with some of the workers otherwise they wouldn’t have been loading some of them into police vans.

Your statement is correct and I agree, however it is not that simple and not every case is the same.

All citizens of European Union Member Countries are able to travel, reside and work in other EU member countries providing the individual meets certain requirements.
I’m sure and I also hope especially given the current political and religious climate that if any immigrant or immigrants are suspected of wrongdoing and thought to pose a serious threat then the authorities would take immediate and appropriate action.

Ask yourself this; Without physically or verbally asking an Estonian, Latvian or Lithuanian could you tell on hearing their accent/s from which country they originate, if you can then you’re a better man than me because I could not.
Same goes for people from Slovakia, Slovenia or Bosnia or any people from the former Yugoslavia, they sound alike and have very similar dialects.

You have your opinion which you are entitled and I have mine. I personally feel most of the immigrants whether legal or illegal are economic migrants and I am not alone with my line of thought.
If an asylum seeker is of the opinion that his or her life and the lives of their families are at serious risk within their own country then they should seek refuge in a neighbouring country not travel across several European countries to reach the country of their choice.

I feel that this thread has somewhat detracted from the death of an innocent woman who has had her life cruelly ended by a drunk driver. Whether the driver is a legal or illegal immigrant is irrelevant, this could have been committed by a drunk driving UK citizen, however it does leave an extremely bitter taste in ones mouth.

RD

Got to agree.

But the powers that be seem to reluctant to enforce any real law, regardless of who commits it. It is verbal warning, slap on wrist, minimum sentence - its pathetic. all this from a country who are ready enough to send our troops abroad to dish out justice... send MPs instead. Feckers, all of them...

Interesting to note amongst all this ethnic discord the number of muslims supposedly in favour of what the muslim bombers did in London recently. We can't or shouldn't decry all muslims for the bombings but I'm not sure that the level of support suggests real harmony with our established society ?

I've read this before posting so no need for anyone to come along and help me to articulate on what I've written.

whilst i was born in the U.K, i have lived most of my life in australia, my parents dreamt of a better life, though i'm not sure that they got it. making the most of wherever you are is obviously the best way to be happy, though that's easy to say here, put bluntly, after a long overseas vacation earlier this year, including england and italy i can say from what i have experienced that australia truly is the best country on earth. there are prettier places, there are more historical places, and there are certainly more exciting places, but for weather, lifestyle, quality of life and friendly faces, oz can't be beat. i don't want to rubbish england but aside from visiting family i have no desire to return, i have never come across as many agro, rude, and wannabe tough guys in my life as i did in my month in the u.k (isle of man excluded!!!) it is worth noting too, that most of us belong to the "silent majority" and apathy fuels inaction and silence so we only have ourselves to blame. we too are in the grip of conservative governmentitis so purile, stupid decisions have to be tolerated here too, it's just that with a population not much more than 20 mill. the saturation of scumbags and negative news stories isn't as large. oh, and there's plenty of room for those who want to move to NZ, most kiwis are moving here......

There's some pretty weird responses in here.

My view is that if you're legally allowed to live and work somewhere then there's no reason why you can't. If you don't like it, lobby your MP to have the law's changed. Most people take advantage of laws that suit them and to then sit back and complain that others do (notwithstanding illegals) smacks of hypocrisy.

Being an Aussie living in London I've had to compete with everyone else eligible to work here and my industry also attracts a large number of immigrants. I know for a fact that *some* employers in my industry prefer to hire antipodeans because, and in their words, we have a better work ethic and better attitude towards getting the job done. Two companies that I've worked for that have a high percentage of contractors had a MAJORITY of antipodeans over english. That's something else to think about.

I'll offer one final thing that I hope you all consider. There are people on this board who have partners/loved ones who originate from the countries being stereotyped/denigrated on here. It might pay to show a bit of tact and thoughtfulness.

TP - proud to be Australian.

Thanks for your comments on Aus Loony :)

Of course when you come from "down under" (now there's another term ripe for innuendo) us Brits are the Antipodeans :eek:

Bloody Australians get everywhere, taking our jobs.... ;)

[quote=TP]

Being an Aussie living in London I've had to compete with everyone else eligible to work here and my industry also attracts a large number of immigrants. I know for a fact that *some* employers in my industry prefer to hire antipodeans because, and in their words, we have a better work ethic and better attitude towards getting the job done. Two companies that I've worked for that have a high percentage of contractors had a MAJORITY of antipodeans over english. That's something else to think about.QUOTE]

Thats Cos there arent many English left living in london Tony.
Ask for directions in london and see how many people reply in english....