How far to lean?
 

As a guy who does'nt use knee sliders I'm never sure just how far over I can go.
Back in the day it was easy, first was the sidestand, then the footpegs, then the centrestand, then the exhaust.
NOW, every time I go into a bend I always come out thinking " could I have gone through faster"
Just how do you find the limit, without sliding down the road on yer arse?

Not on the road certainly - Trackday / Coaching seems needed.

Hello 900MAN

or get up early on Sunday moring and head for a favorite

roundabout and make yourself dizzy.


TopiToo

yeah but I dont want to slide on my arse at a trackday either ;0)

Know what you mean but I just dont fancy,
A: keeping my body within the bike therefore increasing the lean angle and potentially loss of adhesion and I fall off,
or,
B: stick an unprotected knee on to the deck, ouch!!!!!!!

Guess I've answered my own question really.

I run good rubber always so that gives me confidence in lean angles, but a keen eye has to be kept on the road surface, that is texture and sand, oil patches etc.You can get a bit of an idea from your chicken stripes on how much tyre you are using but a rideday at a track where rider based skills training is taught is brilliant and well worth the fee. No matter how long you have been riding there is always something else to gain.
Cheers, Rob

Get a velcro patch sewn onto your leathers and stick knee sliders on ..... no more wuckin forries

Wear full leathers !!! , it will give you confidance ,well mine do , the few times i go out in my jeans ( Draggin jeans with kevlar) i dont feel so safe

When in my full leathers i have no problems getting my knee down i feels natural to do so , its like drive without your seatbelt it just dont feel right !

I got the feeling he wears leathers, just not the kind with sliders on ... only my view.

maybe 900man can confirm.

I asked this question a few years back about how far you can lean and the reply was "until you fall off and back a bit from that!"

Now I can get my knee down (track only), I wouldn't feel comfortable going fast through corners without hanging off the bike. It just feels natural to me but I would second (or is it third) the advice of wearing full leathers with knee sliders. That is not to say it will make you any quicker but I guess most tuition you will receive nowadays will advise you to shift your weight off the bike which is foolhardy without adequate protection. As my mother used to say, if you have a £10 head, wear a £10 helmet.

Of course, people will point to fast police riders etc and say they don't hang off but most would agree it is the fastest way round corners .... and it looks way cooler in pics when getting your trackday pics back. Oh, lastly do a trackday if you haven't already done one and you'll learn loads.

simon