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DC 18-Sep-2004 21:42

Radial master cylinders??
 
Hello peeps,

I have been thinking about upgrading my front brakes over the winter and have been thinking of starting with the master cylinder and then the front calipers.

I have been looking at the Brembo Radial master cylinder and was wondering if it came with a front brake light switch? If not are there other good makes that have the switch I am after? Or is it worth doing at all?

The other thing was the calipers. At present, I have the Brembo gold four pot ones with the one piece brake pads. I know they have the 60 or 65mm spacing when bolting them to the fork legs.

Is there that much difference between the ones I have and the Brembo ones that run the four pads.? ( Goldlines I think.)

At the moment the front brake set up is good. Its in good order with braided hoses and always has fresh fluid etc. But I have heard Ducati owners stating that these four pad brembo calipers are awsome.

I just want a few words of wisdom if any one has upgraded with these or any parts that I have mentioned.

Cheers,

DC.:burn:

Rattler 18-Sep-2004 21:47

Both the radial master cylinder and the 4 pad calipers upgrade offer considerable improvement over what you have and are well worth doing. Try the m/cyl first though.

Tim:frog:

keefer 18-Sep-2004 22:43

they dont come with a switch but you can get a in line pressure switch that does the job,
as Tim said well worth doing :smug:
the m/cyl will prob be enough

[Edited on 18-9-2004 by keefer]

ducv2 18-Sep-2004 23:04

I found the 4 pad calipers to be a great improvement over the originals, regularly come up on E-bay, got mine for £150 inc hoses and pads.

Chris996 18-Sep-2004 23:35

Don't know whether you noticed but Pedro is selling a brake MC in the Market place section if that helps. :o

skidlids 18-Sep-2004 23:39

And yes their is a alternative to the Brembo radial, it comes with a switch and a folding lever which can come in handy if your bike goes down on that side.
Can't remember the name at the Mo I know DJTera and some others have them.
Should show up in a search.

FiscusFish 19-Sep-2004 10:02

http://www.carpimoto.it/product/Lang...Prod_13787.htm

cmoss 19-Sep-2004 18:32

I have just fitted a Brembo Radial Brake cylinder to 996 and find pain to get in right position so on full lock not to touch clocks( Dremel out sponge around clock and have cut end of throttle). Also you will have to bend original aluminium bracket for resovoir(but it will fit). If you use a banjo pressure switch single should be ok, but a bouble will touch air tubes on lock. I have a switch conversion come from USA, Yoyodyne have made a conversion part which locates original Ducati break switch so will stop problem of two lines and carbon tubes. Would have like to have tried the Discatti type cylinder, but spares may be a pain(always fron Itally).

Mr_S 19-Sep-2004 19:27

Quote:

Originally posted by FiscusFish
http://www.carpimoto.it/product/Lang...Prod_13787.htm

I've got this fitted too.

one word

Awesome.

I'd recommend it. Delivery took 3days from ordering.

DC 19-Sep-2004 20:47

Quote:

Originally posted by keefer
they dont come with a switch but you can get a in line pressure switch that does the job,
as Tim said well worth doing :smug:
the m/cyl will prob be enough

[Edited on 18-9-2004 by keefer]

mmmmmm,

In line pressure switch. Where does that fit too, the break line? And what are they like?

DC

DC 19-Sep-2004 20:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr_S
Quote:

Originally posted by FiscusFish
http://www.carpimoto.it/product/Lang...Prod_13787.htm

I've got this fitted too.

one word

Awesome.

I'd recommend it. Delivery took 3days from ordering.

Whats the fit like on your bike? Any heavy modding needed or did it just bolt straight on. I take it you have a 748/916 type fairing?

DC.

Rattler 19-Sep-2004 20:56

The brake pressure switch can be part of the banjo bolt that connects the brake line(s) to the master cylinder.

If you're using two brake lines, you might get in trouble with the brake sensor fouling the fork. The sensor fits at the end of the banjo bolt and if you're using a double one then its a bit longer than a single one.

Mine was close, but was OK, I moved the brembo race m/cyl I had on the clip-on to make it fit. There is a pin in the clipon that the m/cyl locates in, but a quick "adaptation" with a hacksaw cures the prob!!!

Tim:frog:

DC 20-Sep-2004 00:13

Quote:

Originally posted by Rattler
The brake pressure switch can be part of the banjo bolt that connects the brake line(s) to the master cylinder.

If you're using two brake lines, you might get in trouble with the brake sensor fouling the fork. The sensor fits at the end of the banjo bolt and if you're using a double one then its a bit longer than a single one.

Mine was close, but was OK, I moved the brembo race m/cyl I had on the clip-on to make it fit. There is a pin in the clipon that the m/cyl locates in, but a quick "adaptation" with a hacksaw cures the prob!!!

Tim:frog:

Ah, exellent. ( In true Mr Burns tyre voice.)

Me thinks that I must start having a play about with these bits.:burn:

Mr_S 20-Sep-2004 09:11

Quote:

Originally posted by DC

Whats the fit like on your bike? Any heavy modding needed or did it just bolt straight on. I take it you have a 748/916 type fairing?

DC.


I've got a 748, and it fits fine, the inner end of the lever / adjuster hits the foam surrounding the clocks when putting the steering lock on, but then my original one did too. Other than that, clearance is fine.

I could probably adjust it further, but it's not an issue to me when riding, so I'm leaving it alone.

Nattyboy 20-Sep-2004 12:23

Brembo 4 pad calipers are probably the best value for money mod you can make to your front setup...that said, I too have a brembo radial MC, and the difference it made was incredible (and it looks the dogs!!)..mind you that was on my 888 where the standard MC bore is about 4mm ! :lol:

Magura do a nice MC too..but its gotta be brembo on a ducati hasnt it ??!!!!! I note that Alan (AJR) in Reading has some tasty deals on brembo radial MC's at the minute...dont forget theres different versions too..both in stroke, and a choice of billet or cast. I would go for a 19x18mm.

I also have the proper brembo/ducati inline brake switches here .. part number 96818500b..£28 from a dealer...£20 incl post from me :D

Cheers
Nat

Nattyboy 20-Sep-2004 12:24

and one of my lever..

m1keyp 20-Sep-2004 14:01

I changed my brake and clutch faster cylinders this summer, following advice on this site I went for the Discaciati master cylinders which come with the brake switch.

These were delivered in one week, if you have a VAT number you can get them tax free!!!

Visit www.redracingparts.com

The results are incredible, if you go for the clutch MS i would recommend the modified slave cylinder aswell.

And finally buy yourself one extra brake/clutch lever just in case as i doubt you will find one in the UK


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