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MarkyMark76 27-Oct-2004 17:33

MOT changes
 
Registration plates....A number plate that can be misread from a distance of approx 15 metres from the rear or the m/cycle is now a reason for rejection (fail)
A single line plate ie ABC 123 is a fail
A multi line plate will fail if the letters or figures are incorrectly formed,too small,or not of an equal stroke.

VIN and FRAME numbers.
A motorcycle first used on or after 1st august 1999, unless amateur built must have/display a VIN/FRAME no. This follows changes to Type approval legislation and construction and use regulations which now require that the VIN on all new vehicles should be easily visable or accessible.

Fuel system checks.
Apart from the usual checks, now the fuel cap has to be checked, so if its on a seperate key remember to take it with you.

EXHAUSTS (this is word for word)

Finally you no longer need to inspect an exhaust for british standard or equivalent markings. Under section 7.1,you can now decide for yourself if the noise emission from the exhaust is acceptable. However, you must still fail silencers that are marked as "not suitable for road use" Again, we have taken this step to simplify the test because of the many different markings that you can come across on exhausts.

antonye 27-Oct-2004 17:54

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkyMark76
EXHAUSTS (this is word for word)

Finally you no longer need to inspect an exhaust for british standard or equivalent markings. Under section 7.1,you can now decide for yourself if the noise emission from the exhaust is acceptable. However, you must still fail silencers that are marked as "not suitable for road use" Again, we have taken this step to simplify the test because of the many different markings that you can come across on exhausts.

Interesting .... so does this now mean that an over-zealous policeman can form the opinion that a perfectly legal exhaust is "a bit noisy" and thus still issue a producer, even if it has a BSAU or equivalent mark on it?

I'm thinking that this has been brought in to cover where an aftermarket sticker or plate has been put onto a noisy exhaust...

And on the flip side, will I be able to MOT my noisy pipes if I polish off the "race use only" stamp?

:D

[Edited on 27-10-2004 by antonye]

JPM 27-Oct-2004 17:58

Where are these changes listed? is there a website or a paper document you can obtain?

Be handy to have that to hand if plod got stroppy

rockhopper 27-Oct-2004 18:07

The above info hasn't got anything to do with if the Police can do you or not. They will issue a producer based upon a breach of the construction and use regulations which probably still state that the exhaust must have the correct marks etc. I'd love to be proved wrong though!

nelly 27-Oct-2004 18:29

I was chatting with one of the testers I use about this and it has a lot to do with people putting the eBay BS stickers on their race cans.
It's now down to the testers discretion as to whether the exhaust is "substantially or discernably" louder than the stock system, in good condition, as to whether it gets through or not.
I've run a bike down there with the bolt in baffles I've got and he said, in his opinion, it was OK and passed it................ I'm happy with that ;)

Pauls right though, I think. The MOT is one thing, getting pulled and issued with a rectification notice is another issue altogether.

I hadn't heard the number plate changes though.............:puzzled:

NBs996 27-Oct-2004 18:53

well for me that's good news. will be a heck of a lot easier to bolt in some baffles than change the system!

i think the number plate thing has been in place for a few months, and probably ties up with the new regs for getting a proper plate made... so you can't get away with running a "show plate".

nelly 27-Oct-2004 19:10

Remember tho' Nick..........it's at the testers discretion. That's the sticking point!!
If it's thought a set of cored cans, or even std. ones that have blown their packing, are too noisy then it's a fail if he wishes...

paulmort 27-Oct-2004 21:40

Nelly
how long to get me a set of new plates???

rockhopper 27-Oct-2004 21:56

My cored cans have passed two MOT's now but its a worry every year. I think because they look standard from the outside then they just assume that Dukes sound like that anyhow. If its got Devil or Termi or such like on it then they start to get interested.

antonye 27-Oct-2004 22:04

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Originally posted by nelly
Remember tho' Nick..........it's at the testers discretion. That's the sticking point!!
If it's thought a set of cored cans, or even std. ones that have blown their packing, are too noisy then it's a fail if he wishes...

But it's always been like that...

The point I'm making is that an MOT tester has been trained for this particular task, and therefore knows a bit about how "loud" a bike should sound before it fails the MOT.

However, your average plod on the street would probably go by the BSAU or equivalent sticker, and ticket if it wasn't there.

What one thinks will pass and what the other thinks may well be completely different.

I don't think this new change has helped, but just muddied the waters even more!

nelly 27-Oct-2004 22:56

Antony, you're right................but up until these rule changes, the cans had to have the BS or E4 marking on them. That's not the case anymore. Putting a dodgy BS stamp on your Termis is no longer a way around the rules. It was before.................

MarkyMark76 27-Oct-2004 23:08

Quote:

Originally posted by jpmercer
Where are these changes listed? is there a website or a paper document you can obtain?

Be handy to have that to hand if plod got stroppy

Sorry, i copied it from another motorcycle forum. No idea where it came from originally.

rockhopper 28-Oct-2004 09:34

The real danger now i think might be that if you do get stopped and attempt to argue your case you may well end up having to prove that your can meets construction and use regs. If its hasnt got the apropriate stamp on it then you will have to send it away for testing at your own expense. Hmmm...

rcgbob44 28-Oct-2004 21:11

The noise bits interesting as I`ve been pulled a few times for the pipes on my jota which are standard. When I pointed out to the officer that the little plate riveted to the fram proved that the pipes conformes to the international ratification of silencers when the bike was built, then there legal!!!! he was very upset and told me that in his profesional opinion they were to loud and therefore illeagal!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to say though that on full chat it has a very nice distinctive sound.


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