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JPM 17-Nov-2004 12:37

Biker down - RIP
 
Happened on my road last night, probably 100 yds away.... :(

Me and Lily awoken by the sirens, looked nasty at the time from what we could see.

The guy's died from his injuries, pillion in a serious way.

BBC News

Be careful out there....

dickieducati 17-Nov-2004 12:40

condolences to his family and friends.

:(

yeti 17-Nov-2004 12:47

Can't help feeling my decision to quit road riding was justified. It's just not a good time to be on the roads.

RIP, mate.

Lily 17-Nov-2004 12:48

I think I am actually a bit shocked :(

It was literally just outside the house, so I walked out to see what was going on, as i got just down the road i saw the biker and the bike and walked back and told Freak not to look as it was a biker, so we went back and waited until all sirens/flashing lights had gone before being able to sleep.

Just saw the news report and feel quite shocked. Don't really know how it happened but could make a reasonable guess, but without facts its wrong to speculate i guess.

very sad indeed :(

keefer 17-Nov-2004 12:50

Bad news indeed.
Even more shocking when it's on your front door

yeti 17-Nov-2004 12:52

Quote:

Originally posted by Lily
Don't really know how it happened but could make a reasonable guess:(

That time of night and wet roads, it doesn't take much to work out sadly.

Michael J 17-Nov-2004 12:53

Must've shaken you up quite a bit Lily. Never easy seeing something like that and it really brings home how vulnerable we all are. Poor guy.
R.I.P.:(

Lily 17-Nov-2004 13:05

Quote:

Originally posted by yeti
Quote:

Originally posted by Lily
Don't really know how it happened but could make a reasonable guess:(

That time of night and wet roads, it doesn't take much to work out sadly.

hmmm, sadly it looked abit more obvious than that. I can't judge as I dont know the speeds of the vehicles involved (its a 30 but people race up and down the road) but it was fairly clear from the impact/positions etc that the car had turned right into a side road across the path of the bike :(

As I said its not right to blame the car as the bike may well have been speeding or at fault as well, but its still pretty sad :(

guest1 17-Nov-2004 14:12

Quote:

Originally posted by Lily
As I said its not right to blame the car as the bike may well have been speeding or at fault as well, but its still pretty sad :(

Obivous condolences to all concerned whether bystanders participants or witnesses.

Your time to go is never the right time and I don't dwell on the subject, but is your own house in order should such an unthinkable thing happen to you? I know mine is.

Rocker 17-Nov-2004 17:01

Quote:

Originally posted by yeti
Can't help feeling my decision to quit road riding was justified. It's just not a good time to be on the roads.

RIP, mate.

Have you also given up driving walking using electrical appliances and all the other things that kill people every day?

dickieducati 17-Nov-2004 17:08

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Originally posted by Rocker
Quote:

Originally posted by yeti
Can't help feeling my decision to quit road riding was justified. It's just not a good time to be on the roads.

RIP, mate.

Have you also given up driving walking using electrical appliances and all the other things that kill people every day?

bit harsh............riding a bike on the road is clearly very hazzardous and something that most of us dont HAVE to do. if you decide the best place for it is on track only thats up to the individual imho.

Rocker 17-Nov-2004 17:13

One doesn't have to drive either unless it is for a living. The point I was making was that biking is no more dangerous now than it ever was. Of course it is all a matter of personal choice but I do find it strange reading someone advocating people to give up road riding on a motorcycle club message board

Paul James 17-Nov-2004 18:28

Ironicaly more people are killed at DIY in the home each year than are killed on motorcycles in this country.

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Have you also given up driving walking using electrical appliances and all the other things that kill people every day? [/quote]

TP 17-Nov-2004 18:31

Clearly we need to legislate DIY out of existence and introduce home 'safety camera's' to catch illegal plastering etc and make sure these people go to jail for the rest of their lives!

Think of all the innocent children ...








and the little fluffy kittens ....

Mad Dog Bianchi 18-Nov-2004 02:28

Always sad to hear of a bikers death and I hope his family or relatives do not grieve too long. We always get out there with a little bit of risk involved and sometimes we forget that the whipsnake is always waiting somewhere to strike us. This should reinforce our determination to drive super defensively and within the limits of the situation at hand....dark, wet streets, limited escape routes, heavy cross traffic, lots of animals around, etc. I was flinging my old A-7 Kawasaki around some very deserted road outside of Carmel California one night and came face to butt with a big bull in the road. The brakes on the Kawa were not the best, but I still avoided corn holing the monster. Taught me a lot about overdriving the limits.
Again, sad to hear of the death and sorry to hear Lily had it happen so close to her place.

Ray 18-Nov-2004 11:51

Ride as if everyones trying to kill you. Despite how much we would like to kid ourselves motorcyclcing is dangerous.

It doesn't matter if its on road or track its still dangerous, Isnt that part of the attraction though?

Safety kit for car users has improved a huge amount compared to bikes.

Biking in the UK has allowed itself to be marginalised to the point where some paid up members of the nanny state would have it banned, given the chance. We are speeding, noisy maniacs who need protection from ourselves.

DIYers are just trying to improve their home etc, no demonic connections and trying to make some is difficult though not impossible.

Ray.

JPM 18-Nov-2004 12:00

It's hard to say what exactly happened, as we both didn't actually see it, but the road past my house is notorious for speeders, as the road leads out to a country road/national speed limit.

When I got home last night the surrounding lamp posts had flowers etc attached, what remains to be established will be the root cause, whether the bike was speeding or not, but I guess from the way things looked the driver of the car was turning across the road, so I assume some blame will fall on them, I am merely speculating.

I wish his family well, and hope his death will cause some changes to the roads near me, as he is just one in quite a long line who have either died or suffered serious injury there since I've lived there.

Monty 19-Nov-2004 00:45

Hate to say it but a guy died up the road from me on Monday morning. I live just off the A1 and heard sirens Monday, nothing unusual in that, was going North 1/2 hour later so pulled onto A1, after about a mile the road was blocked with solid traffic, I did a u turn through a small turning and went round the back roads. It gave out on the trafficline system that the road had been closed. Read the local paper tonight, front page, a guy travelling on the A1 had a fatal with a car by a notorious turning from a village, car driver (a woman) is critically ill in hospital. There are several small villages off the A1 near me and the turnings to them just come straight onto the duel carriegeway with no filter lane at all-death traps. Since it was stated that the biker was on the A1 it seems most likely that the car pulled out infront of him.........what can you say, it has happened to all of us many times.
Be careful out there guys and girls.

John


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