DesmoDue is GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Right you lot START BUILDING THOSE BIKES.
We have had a meeting with Jim Parker from New Era this afternoon and have reached agreement on the series.
The race dates are:

Round 1-Cadwell Woodland Circuit
Saturday 30th April-Practice
Sunday 1st May race 1 and 2

Round 2 Castle Combe
Saturday 4th June races 3 and 4

Round 3 TBA
Saturday Time Trial back end of June-we are still working on it.

Round 4 Donington Park
Saturday 13th August races 6 and 7

Round 5 Brands Hatch Indy
Sunday 11th September races 8 and 9(with Superclubs so WJB and I will be there with the TZ)

Round 6 Cadwell Park Full Circuit
Sunday 9th October races 10 and 11

So now you know when and where-you have 20 weeks to get ready-so go do it!

Updated Brands date-lets hope they have finished mucking about with the dates..........

John

[Edited on 21-1-2005 by Monty]

Excellent work MT ... see you boys on the grid! :D

John, Chris et al
 

... absolutely fanbloodytastic :D:D:D:D:D

Anyone want a 900 disguise it you know you want to.:roll:

Looks like I had better send my entry in and get a bike sorted.
At least my ACU license and New Era membership are not a problem
Will I be needing my Transponder
A impressive race calender for the first year, well done to all those who have made this happen.
Race number 88 please, strangely the same as I had with New Era this year.
Yes I know its the same upside down

Kev

Time to get the dates added to the Events list

Is that your race entry in your avatar Kev?

That explains a message from chris bushell last night! Right now all Ive got to do is.
a) lose 3 stone /get fit
b) get industrial strength valium for annette
c) join new era/acu licence
d)find a bike
e) learn to ride it
f) aquire cheerleaders/pit girls (annette permiting)
g) health/life insurance
h) if all else fails a panicomatic visor(borrowed from zaphod)

dave

[Edited on 10-12-2004 by DAVE HARRIS]

"Will I be needing my Transponder"?
Yes Kev, all riders will require transponders-available to hire or buy from New Era. Grid positions will be decided by practice times-the fastest starts from the front of the grid not the back-this is a safety issue.

John

are the rules as per the original flyer and can we have a list of who's in it at the moment.

also i assume there will be a few people that will need to get the same things ie belly pans etc can we try and get a 'group discount' from a supplier?

not riding:( but WILL be there for support of the guys, not tooo sure what I can do other than make coffee and take pics, but happy to help however.

Answers to questions:

Q: Is it allowed for riders to enter just one race as a 1 off ???
A: It's a race meeting so of course-as long as the entrant meets the regulations-eg member of DSC and New Era-and there's space on the grid.

Q: are the rules as per the original flyer?
A: Yes-the rules are as posted on this site

Q: can we have a list of who's in it at the moment?
A: I believe a list is posted somewhere here.

John

Another question John-

Do we need to join New Era ourselves, or is this covered as part of our "joining" of the Desmo Due series & fees?

Obviously we will all need an ACU licence anyway.

I'll quite happily accept your offer of coffee making Paul, hopefully if your there and getting involved you may decide to give it a go some time.
I will also hopefully be racing in another class on the day, maybe SoT or 600s

Kev

what a great result for the club and its supporters - in getting this series up and running - many thanks to you all.

that just leaves three things left to do....

buy a bike

develop very wide elbows

and get a licence

and on that subject any "beginners" around London want to share transport up to Rugby for the ACU class early next year??

Q: Do we need to join New Era ourselves, or is this covered as part of our "joining" of the Desmo Due series & fees?
A: Yes you will need to New Era members but we have negotiated a discount to their fees so it will only cost £25.00. We (Michael) are putting together a document of all our discussions to send to New Era and be ratified, then we will have details of how it will all work. Race entries will be direct to New Era as they are the race promotors.

John

Done. I'm out in Rickmansworth. Can't do the 26/1-31/1 but otherwise free. Drop me a u2u with your preferred date.

Cheers,

Ali

i was looking at the ess site and last year they ran classes at snetterton that covered all the stuff needed for the acu lisence and also classes about scrutineering, tuning etc etc the trackstuff covered race starts racing manouvers etc. sounded really good and i suspect they will do the same this year. you then dont need to go to rugby

Great news,at least i wont haveto fit the 620 engine into the lawnmower!
Did somebody say it was going to be a low cost series?has anyone added up the costs,
Articulated transporter £100k,hostility unit £300k etc etc
Must fly got to meet the deadline for the double page full colour press release in the sunday times!
Butch

Nearly forgot Rossi wont be riding our bike,just one demand after another.
Butch

NG are also running the course along with a test day

"Note If this is your first racing licence application, you are required to attend a half-day training course and answer a multi-choice questionnaire.The ACU run courses on Monday afternoons in Rugby. You will need to contact them on 01788 566400 to book a place. NGRRC are also running a course on Saturday 26 February 2005 at Pembrey where there will be limited places available. If you wish to attend the NGRRC training course and also gain valuable track time on Sunday 27 February 2005, please call Nino on 01905 20680 for more details.See you all soon. "

sorry, very new to this who is ng ?

the bemsee one this year is at snetterton on the 19th/20th feb

"sorry, very new to this who is ng ?"
North Gloucester Racing Club.

Ok guys some more news for you-just had a chat with Mr Hackett-there will be an official JHP entry-probably ridden by Dave from parts...........the plot thickens.:lol:

John

What do you have in there then? Somebody shouting abuse at you as you walk in the door? Duck low flying chairs? :lol:

NGRRC = North Glos Road Racing club
http://www.ngroadracing.org/

Party pooper
 

I for one can't afford to enter and, I suspect, there are many others in the same boat. What can we look forward to as part of this package ;) Free/reduced circuit entry to go with the paddock passes so we can meet n greet our mates who are out there doing it? :D

I would love to put together a bike for someone else to ride.

But....based on my last project that sat in the garage for 12 Months then got sold without getting touched I'd better forget it.

If anyone oop North needs any help just let me know, I'll do what I can.

Ray.

Well done Monty. I've put dates in the diary to come along and support. What's the deal with getting tickets to watch? Chat up someone who's racing and not using their allocated tickets? Oh well, if I have to.... :D:D:D

have you no shame woman?



actually dont answer that. ;)

Damn,
only 1 date ties up with the New Era Superclub dates and I can't afford to race 2 bikes on different dates (£1400 in entry fees alone!!) so I guess Chris will have to tear my cheque up................ :sniff:

Good luck to all taking part and I'll see you at Donington

Paul aka "that tw8t falling off his 888" (sic)

I'm interested in this.
I don't have a licence but spent last year involved in racing - i'd wanted to have a go but didn't really think there was an appropriate class for my monster.
Can someone give me an idea of the grid size expected please?
I'd probably do the NG acu day as I know Pembrey etc.
And does anyone have any info on catch trays please for monsters?

Thanks and hello everyone :)

I usually get 3 tickets for the rider and mechanics and I also get another couple at least if I list sponsors

Phoenix - welcome :)
 

I don't think anyone knows the likely grid size! This whole thing is suck it and see so to speak. I think the max sizes allowed vary from circuit to circuit, about 35 - 40, and I get the impression that everyone involved would be delighted, but a little surprised, if we managed to fill the grids in the first year.

Catch trays - see separate post.

Hiya Lin - Phoenix - good to see you here.
If you do go ahead & take max in this - Al says if Nige is busy, he'll come & 'crew' for you!:)


Costs? I have blatantly copied over part of a response to one of Tims enquiries:


First, comparative dyno runs for the 600 and 620 engines:
(620 red, 600 green, both running standard airbox and filter and race cans)

Couldnt copy graph... sorry:( but...

From that it would seem that you really want to be on a 620, rather than a 600. Differences include longer crank throw, same bore, main advantage comes from much bigger inlet and exhaust valves, shorter inlet tracts and larger throttle bodies means it breathes much much better, which will translate to a large performance advantage. And electronically managed fuel injection of course. The 5.9 ECU is fairly tolerant of tuning mods so you may get away without the power commander.

As for budget, I would say realistically to buy and race mod a cheap 620 and run it over the six race series, you're looking at £5 - £6K minimum. You will need to rework the front fork internals, the rear shock needs beefing up to be competitive, open airbox and performance filter, hi level race cans, rearsets, clipons, two sets of rennsports at £200 a set, and if it's wet you'll need a pair of race wets as well, another £200+, ideally fitted to spare wheels so you can swap quickly on showery days. You'll need to fabricate a 4 litre catch tray under the engine to comply with regs as well. Add the £800 entry fees, you're at £6k already, and you may want a race van / caravan, generator, tyre warmers etc yet. Of course you can do without some of these things (i regard the genny and tyre warmers as a luxury for instance) but without the suspension and performance mods you'll be struggling from the off, particularly with circuits like Cadwell and Donnington in the line up.

Bit of a discussion going on there about it now - maybe you might get some new members Lizzie?:D


C

Pheonix, do you mean you don't have a race licence or do you mean a road one, as the Desmo Due rules read as follows for some reason.

Riders
#; Must be current members of the DSC
#; Must hold ACU racing licences and must hold a current Full Department of Transport road licence and have held it for at least two years prior to entry.

I haven't studdied the ACU novice rules lately, It use to be that Novices that did not hold a Full DoT Licence were not legible for a Intermediate licence and were therefore restricted to a Novice licence that restricted them to a bike with a maximum capacity of 600cc. I will not get my new ACU handbook for a couple of months if this year was anything to go on.
Anybody have the latest ACU rules on Novice licences.

[Edited on 11-12-2004 by skidlids]

Is that an invitation to chat you up, Skidywids??? ;)

"Must hold ACU racing licences and must hold a current Full Department of Transport road licence and have held it for at least two years prior to entry."

The reason for the above rule Kev was to try to make sure that entrants had a reasonable amount or experience-we didn't want any 16 year olds straight of the minimoto circuit entering................they can go race 600's with the rest of the headbangers.:lol:

John

As I wrote on the Monster site, if I can keep the costs below £5K - then I'm not going to do it. I'd almost rather race the ZX in some proddy series for similar cash. Then I don't need to go to the trouble of sourcing and setting up a bike.

Monty / Chris - what sort of costs do you reckon it'll be?

I'm gonna start a new thread on this subject in case it doesn't get picked up here.
Tim

or you could just buy a cheap 600, take off the road stuff, put on a catch tray and go and have some fun.

if you really want to be winning and trouncing the opposition then go for it but for me, and a few others i suspect, it really is about just getting out there and giving it a go.

i can honestly say if i come second from last in a race i will be genuinely pleased. i will have beaten someone in a race.