748R with 2 seats
 

Hello guys:)

After my girlfriend have been whining a while now about why I only have 1 seat, and she whants to have a ride on my bike. Im planning to get an extra seat for her (and maybe some other girls:P)
So what im wondering about is what parts I need to get 2 seats. I know I need new plastic with seat pads, new back frame, footpegs.
Can I use the tail lamp, reg plate holder and tail lamp from my mono tail?
Anyone got some or all of the parts I need? (of course it`s red ;)

Thx:)

Excuse my spelling and grammar...I`m Norwegian:alien:

rattler was selling one
http://217.199.188.40/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=14773

And still am!!!

Most of the stuff swaps straight over - seat hinge, lights, seat catch - I did mine at the weekend.

Dual seats are pretty easy to come by as people usually want the single seat. Just make sure you get one as complete as possible and then just swap across the bits you need.

A good tip is to mark on the two-part seat catch and light brackets where they line up for each seat, as I spent ages getting this just right!

Er.youll need a Bp subframe though!!! steel instead of your std alloy ;)

Thanks guys:burn:

Is it possible to mount the monoposto (plastic) on the steel subframe (or do I have to change the subframe to the alloy frame to use it?

You can use the mono seat with the Bp subframe.

All you need now is two sets of everything for your seats!

Just a word of warning the lighter wheels on 748R are not homologated for pillion use

Aren't they the same 5-spoke cast ally marchis that are on the S models?

Only the mag marchis may not be suitable for the extra weight...

No the 748R wheels are different to the other models in that the spokes are machined away more (scolloped) making them lighter -they are also fitted to 998R

I think it is an homologation thing for the supersport series

Is this extra scalloping supposed to be visible to the naked eye, bolds?

Not long ago I had a look at both wheel types (R type and ordinary) and I couldn't really see much of a difference...

You can definetly see the difference on the front wheel if you look at the spokes side on they have a scoop out probably 5mm depth for about 60mm length.

I think its the same on the rear but on the inside of the spoke

Not certain if there is a difference on older models, but the ecu etc is under the seat where the pillion pad would go, so surely when the subframe is changed that would also need relocating?

Don't forget to change suspension settings as well as its gonna make a bit of a difference having extra weight at the back.

The part number of the rear wheel rim on both the S and R model is the same - 502.1.022.1AA - for MY2000 and MY2001.

There isn't a parts manual for the 998R online, but the 996R uses the same wheel as the S and R model.

The part number changes to 502.1.023.1AA for a MY2003 748R, but there's no indication in the manual whether this is a different wheel type (ie, special / lighter) or just a superceeded part.

So unless you have a MY2003 748R you've got the same wheels as an S model.

Anyone got a part number for the 998R or can look up the difference between the MY2002 and MY2003 wheels?

The front wheel rims are also different - MY2000 and MY2001 748 R and S have 501.2.020.1AA whereas the MY2002 748R has 501.2.045.1A.

Again, no indication of if this is a different wheel or just a superceed part number.

I have put a Bip subframe on my 2001 748R. I change the mono seat unit to a Bip one in about 5 mins.

There are a few differences you need to be aware of in terms of parts.

Drop me an email and I'll list the bits I got (would direct you to my website which has a complete step-thru set of pics for the conversion process but Virgin.Net have deleted it in one of their AWOLBrain customer service moments).

Guido

748R 2001/02 748RS 01 998R 02 -Front wheel 50120451AA
-Rear Wheel 50210231AA

These part numbers only fitted to these models which have the lighter wheels

That's odd - completely different to the Spares Catalogue on the Ducati website!

http://www.ducati.com/bikes/catalogs.jhtml

Hmmm...this makes me i bit confused...:puzzled: Does it mean that I can not use my standard 2001 748R rear wheel? or just that I only can have skinny girls on the backseat?:bouncy:

Difficult one as stated before the wheels on 748/998R were never homologated for pillion use - but in practise who knows !

there must be some guideline on the weight on this.
because lets face it some people out there weigh more than two skinny peeps put together
the max weight for my 95 sp is 310kg
385kg for a bip

Yup, same for my 998R. 210kg net weight and 310kg max weight.

That means you should either target skinny chicks, HellOnWheels, or you could go for lard heaps and put yourself on a really strict diet. Beware of wind and air drag, though, if you choose to lose a lot of weight :lol:

Godt å se at det er flere vikinger her, forresten! :devil:

Well I did the same conversion on my 2002 748R and took pillions with no trouble and I'm not as light as I'd like to be :lol:
Something you do need to consider though is telling you insurance company, being an R and single seat you won't be covered to take pillions :sniff:
Much better off keeping you R for yourself and buying a M600 for her to ride on her own and you can go racing on it at the weekends :lol:

Darren

Hey!

One more Norwegian:sing:

The chances of anything going wrong are probably pretty slim
I would Ducati are covering themselves in these days of sueing over anything

An "R" with a double seat...............shouldn`t be allowed!

Wouldn`t it be easier just to tell her it cant be fitted with a double seat?

next thing they`l be asking to ride one by themseves!

Stamp this nonsense out the sooner the better or they might ask for the vote!:bouncy:

Hehe...good idea....WHY haven`t I thought about that before:eureka: I Could have saved a bunch of money too...