what extra\'s should i fit ..
 

......... to my bike over the next few months

as i've had to change my plans and cant afford to race in desmodue due to unforeseen circumstances im considering what little cash i'll have left on my 748 bip

i want to fit a new taller screen to her and anything else upto the £500 area, she already has termis,ohlins rear/damper and front internals

what products would you guys recommend

dave

a slipper if you are going to do a few trackdays and dont already have one.

Beat me to it Dickie, best money I have ever spent!

P34 calipers if you running the original twin p[ad caliper. The P34's are the one's with 4 pads per disc.

was thinking of the slipper but is it practical on the roads for everyday riding

its still on standard brakes set up so what advantage is there with the p34 calipers and how much for both suggestions ???

Slipper is obviously not as much an advantage for everyday road riding, but it will still make a difference. As for cost, I believe Nelly at CXornerspeed might still have some specials left at around £750 including a Ti clutch cover and an enlarged slave cylinder.

P34 calipers are a huge improvment on the earlier types, they have to be felt to be believed. Not sure exactly how much but think around £150 per caliper plus another £60 or so for pads.

P34's,,,,,,,,,,,,



[Edited on 16-1-2005 by yeti]

Oy, Yeti...who said you could post pictures of my calipers?????
:P

And yes...the caliper upgrade brings a big advantage for the road.
Andy

Which bikes get the P34's as standard then :puzzled::puzzled::puzzled:

Almost everything from 2001 onward if I rememeber rightly. Unless they got radials.

Power commander and dyno time well worth it

I think only the 998s got p34s as standard and i guess the r versions. my 2002 748s didn't get them although it says it does on the 2002 webpage:o

I suggest you forget the calipers and fit Triumph conical hubs as fitted to the early Triumph Tridents, this will let you explore the finer handling caracturistics of your machine!:bouncy:

Good idea. Then you can save more money by forgetting the slipper: you'll need all the engine braking you can get!:roll:

I would normally recomend getting the suspension sorted, but it looks like you have already done that, so I would also recomend the slipper. I only have experience with the STM slipper, it seems to improve normal clutch operation as well as giving the slipper effect on downshifts.

If I'd just bought a 748 and had £500 spare to spend, then unless I was 101% convinced it had already been done, I'd spend the money on getting a Ducati specialist to give it a good going over, checking the rockers, stripping the clutch, examining the loom for chafing, setting the TPS, etc etc etc.

Pro-Twins should be able to set you up with 4-pad calipers for around £200 including lines (which you will need as the fittings are different).

Pro-Twins - 01342 892 888 )Robert/Chris/Brett - these guys are seriously helpful).

If buying a slipper, make sure you get one with a hard wearing clutch basket - some of the cheaper ones are made from cheese. The ergal rating defines the hardness of the alloy - higher-better.

Also, I intend to change to alloy friction plates as soon as poss, as the standard steel plates hammer the alloy basket.

I believe the alloy plates for the ST4 are suitable.

BTW, a well set up slipper clutch is well worth the money.

Good luck.

Spinoli

Hi Deej

As mentioned...P4's + a radial master cylinder...whhhhooooo there boy! Serious stopping power, and you'll still have some change from the £500.

If you can scrape some more pennies together....an 853 kit...ohh suits you sir!

:D

I have gone to a radial master cylinder and P34 calipers on my 748. Wahoooooooooooooo!

What an improvement. They are truly awsome.:devil:
One of the best mods I have done to my bike bar the 853 conversion.:saint:

DC.:burn:

weeksy i cant afford desmo due this year and i havent got the acu licence so thats a no go


moto748 the bikes all good on that front just ask harv !!!!!!!!

harv, i hadnt considered the 853 kit, sounds like a bloody good idea and just the extra reason to get the p34's at the same time. ps nice duke in your avatar

dc did you fit them yourself or pay for it to be done, what else was needed after you bought the kit and pads, did you find any unexpected hidden extra's ????

nelly how much for the p34's and radial cylinder please ??

[Edited on 17-1-2005 by deej]

[Edited on 17-1-2005 by deej]

deej, dont worry about 853, just pop in a 916-996, if its possible, but even with your 748 there is enough power already on tap. swap over brakes first. my mate had an R1, gave him a go on my then 748R (4 pad calipers) he nearly went over the bars, he was very impressed. Then do the slipper clutch

brembo brake lever will improve your bike for £150-£200

mmm brembo barke lever with p34's and a radial master cylinder

dont think the bikes powerful enough for all that stopping power

eventually a 853 with slipper but i think i'll definetly try out the brake recommendations

nobodys recommended what make of screen to go for yet either, come on guys suggestions please??

If you need bling..ive got a load of brand new DP carbon bits/steering damper/corse screen..U2U me for a list if your interested mate..

Cheers
Nat

Forget Brembo master cylinders and go for lockheed agustable ratio master cylinders instead, sorry had 2 much wine 2night

Forget Lockheed, get this one

http://www.redracingparts.com/en/eng...cyldiscacc.htm

Then depends what you want to achieve.

Control

Get a slipper. Corse one's still going on eBay occasionally.

Fork re-valve

Rear Ohlins - eBay again...

or Power

Dyno time with FIM Chip / Power Commander

Quick change rear sprockets

Or....

Track school, CSS / ESS or similar.

£500 - 600? Simple. Two levels at CSS, improve yourself first with skills you can transfer to any bike.

Next choice? P34 calipers. Any bike is powerful enough to benefit from better stoppers.

Wouldn't bother with a slipper for the road. I'm going with Jools and suggesting CSS.

scotty is there any chance you can u2u me as my email is playing me up

very interested in your earlier email but i just cant reply to you

jools, im going to do another day at the haslam race school on the fireblade this time and will then try something on the track with the 748 after the summer

im more interetsed in modding the bike really

have sourced some second hand p34's which is a bonus, how much difference will they make to the bike, can you enter a corner and use the front brake without the bike standing up on you if it was required

Jools, are you on the payrole at CSS?

all your braking should be over as you enter the corner, more chance of the front washing out on you if you apply the front stopers.:puzzled:

:eureka: yeah i know that but in a emergency on my old r6 you could if needed apply the front brakes but thats impossible on the 748 as it just sits you upright :roll:

A used set of mag wheels. Definitely the best upgrade you can make after Superbike school.

Kenny Roberts "Slow in, Fast out" pick your line early and let the suspension, frame, tyres and forks do their job in the corner. They won't perform as well under braking. Trust me you will be quicker, a Ducati is designed to corner quickly not to enter a corner too fast and then try and corner with the brakes on.

The R6 is designed for Monkeys... :sing:

[Edited on 21-1-2005 by Desmo748]

yeah thats why i sold my r6 to a monkey

:lol:

Fit Carbon air tubes, they don't make you go any quicker but boy do they look good.

thinking ot getting mav to cover the airbox sides in carbon for me like he did his

£500 !! I would be looking at lighter wheels,as Shazaam says 2nd hand mags or if you have the 3 spokes a upgrade to the 5 spokes will save some weight, get some money back on the old wheels.
Also worth considering are adjustable rearsets, can add a bit of comfort and also look good (unless they are like my Harris ones and plastered in dirt all the time)
Get your front internals sorted, I know you say they are done but I can trail my brake right into the apex if I have to on my revalved and resprung forks (having to refers mainly to race meetings).
Brembo Radial mastercylinder is a nice upgrade as is lower gearing and a Renthal or Talon rear sprocket carrier.
If you don't fancy a slipper clutch then a lightweight race clutch will help the engine spin up quicker.

Sorry to hear your not doing the Desmo Due, but hopefully there will be next year.

next year for sure mate

good suggestions,

forks ared one, got the sprocket carrier, new sprockets will be fitted at next service, p34's on the way, rearsets would be nice at the right price