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ak47 24-Jan-2005 20:32

Dilema....What would you do?
 
Hi Guys,

As an update on my quest for a new bike (749S) I have been looking at all sorts of bikes and came to find a winner. It is an 04 749s with brand new termis fitted for £8000, it has done 1400 miles.
But then, in going back to my original dealer, to get my service record stamped, they offered me a 999 standard with termis, same age, 4000 miles and is a BIP for the same price, might be £300 more, but I am not sure if that was with the seat cover. .....What would you do????

Any opinions would be greatly received.

thanks in advance

Al

khu996 24-Jan-2005 20:47

I recently bought a standard 749 bip, and although it has plenty of power for a numpty like me, I can't help but think I could/should have gone for a 999, so, for my two pennies worth, go for the 999 ;)

ak47 24-Jan-2005 21:15

I, foolishly, went on the basis that they are the same insurance group and the same value, therefore the premium should be the same - i'll check tomorrow.:o

adam 24-Jan-2005 21:30

AK, go for the 999, but try and get it for the 749 price, tell the dealer you are torn between the two, see what he says. say you really like the 749, he should try and do something.
let us know. Phone Ducati insurance, they are very cheap.

tricky 24-Jan-2005 21:41

I've had a 749 for a year now and love the bike. However I do wonder occasionaly what a 999 would be like to ride. I think that the extra bit of power would be nice, but then think about the sense in it. The 749 is already a clear license loser if you want it to be.

I've never actually rode a 999 but I do like the fact that you have to work the 749. I used to have a ZXR400 kwak and that was such a laugh giving the engine what for. Gives you the fun sensation at a more reasonable speed.

But at the end of the day you can't beat that little bit more BHP :devil:

tricky.

[Edited on 24-1-2005 by trickz]

ak47 24-Jan-2005 21:42

what about the S versus standard issue? which is more valuable? the power or the handling?

butch890 24-Jan-2005 21:46

For what its worth i would go for the revvy nature of the 749 any day,but then i suppose i would!

GsxrAge 24-Jan-2005 21:48

Don't bother with either as they are bloody ugly :D:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Loz 24-Jan-2005 21:55

I was in the same situation - 749 or 999. The 749 is gorgeous to ride and if you like revs, you might prefer it.
But I'm a grunter, me, I'm glad I got my 999! It's wonderful being able to engage warp engines when circumstances allow. Alternatively, if I just want to potter, who needs a gear change pedal?

:pig: :D

[Edited on 24-1-2005 by Loz]

ak47 25-Jan-2005 13:36

Insurance is quite a bit more!!! Still not impossible, but I will have to love the bike that much more. I am going to see if I can ride them both back to back and see.

Thanks for all your guidance, I am sure there will be more questions coming from me soon.

misterpink 25-Jan-2005 13:51

have you looked at some of the deals you can get from parallel importers like DK or KJM ?...... i think in last weeks MCN a new 999Bip with ohlins forks for £7995 - bargain or even £7195??? i think for a 749 S - also check e-bay P&H are trying to flog cheap new ducatis.

ak47 25-Jan-2005 13:57

What are P&H like? they do seem to be competative, in terms of cost.

I'll check MCN for an import, is there any difference with an import to a UK spec bike?

dickieducati 25-Jan-2005 13:59

just buy a 999. simple

misterpink 25-Jan-2005 14:11

No knowledge of P&H or DK, but did by my 1999 900 SSie from KJM for £5995 at the time deliverd to my door - now about £4,195 (what a bargain!) they give you a 2 year warranty of their own - but you have to have them service it which for me was a non-starter due to location. i took it to daytona as they are ducati dealer - did a cr4p job on the first service so always had it serviced by independant specialists to my entire satisfaction - the bike was 100% reliable over 4 years several trackdays and 24.000 miles as far as i know Ducati make about 5 "markets" USA, canada, UK, EU and other(aus japan etc) you will get an EU one probably.

misterpink 25-Jan-2005 14:16

try this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...06378 93&rd=1

Steve M 25-Jan-2005 14:19

I don't if this is still what happens but, a bike from DK comes with 3 years warranty if they service it or you can take it elsewhere to have it serviced and get 2 years warranty.
So go to DK, buy a 999 bp complete with Ohlins forks and then take it to somewhere like Cornerspeed for services, and be a happy bunny:sing:

ak47 28-Jan-2005 16:47

Right I have ridden both....And made a decision!!!!!
749S

I rode the 999 first....Oh my god:o, right hand twist and "thankyou very much"....whatever gear you chose and "thank you very much"....incredible!
It felt really powerfull, more so than I have had the plesure of experiencing. I won't lie I was ****ting myself.
Then on to the 749S...an hour in between as I needed to go to a different dealer.
I actually rode a standard Bip, eitherway this bike felt much more involving a ride, I could handle the power (relativiley speaking) a lot better and it felt smaller and easier to turn in etc (I know that it is only the back wheel that is bigger on the 999). Admittedly though there were occasions when the bike didn't pull as the 999 due to poor gear selection but that is down to my riding.

I made my descision based on:
Insurance...much more favourable on the 749
Looks...pure vanity but I like the look of the 749Smono and to get the offered 999 to have a mono seat would be out of budget.
Ridability.. I have only had my license for 6 months or so and both bikes supercede my ability, however the 749 will keep my eye in and make me think about gear selection and revs, whereas the 999 will perhaps encourage me to get a little lazy. I have no doubt that in time I'll be saying "why didn't I get the 999 as I need (read want) the power", but for now I think the 999 is too much of a bike for me and I need to ride the bike that is going to "compiment" my skill and not just terrify me.

Thanks for all your advice....you can gaurantee that I'll be along soon with more issues.:roll:

TP 28-Jan-2005 17:08

Well done, rock on!

Twinfan 28-Jan-2005 17:28

Nice one :roll:

The 749S is a nicely balanced bike. The 999 has the same chassis, but more power which it's been said doesn't suit the bike as well. From the rave reviews of the '05 999 I'm guessing they've changed the suspension internals or settings to suit the bigger motor better. I bet they used exactly the same previously.

I moved down from an RSV1000 to a 749S to enjoy my riding more. There's a greater satisfaction in thrashing a smaller engined bike!

ak47 28-Jan-2005 17:43

good to know.....I couldn't hold off....deposit paid......

Anyone want a 6 month old monster

TP 28-Jan-2005 17:44

Quote:

Originally posted by ak47
good to know.....I couldn't hold off....deposit paid......

Anyone want a 6 month old monster

Is it a 620?

ak47 28-Jan-2005 18:00

it is!

TP 28-Jan-2005 18:12

Quote:

Originally posted by ak47
it is!

Well well well .... (three holes in the ground)

Got some piccies, details? Is it a dark? Twin disks?

I'm interested mate but my budget has been lower than a few I've seen around. Yours is pretty new.

I'll u2u my number, give us a ring.

ak47 28-Jan-2005 18:17

I call you in a bit, you may be dissapointed as it is red..... but other than that a beaut

TP 28-Jan-2005 18:21

Quote:

Originally posted by ak47
I call you in a bit, you may be dissapointed as it is red..... but other than that a beaut

So it's the fastest one then :D

ak47 28-Jan-2005 18:22

of course!!!


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