Ebay help pls Londoners / cyclists...a VERY elaborate scam???
 

I hope I'm wrong but something does not seems right about this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...4397 870&rd=1

The 'seller' has 434 other 'brand new' bikes for sale, has set up a web site:

http://www.delincycles.com/

and claims to be in Peel Street in London - (which I cannot find in the E-Yellow pages but, the shop might not be listed).

The pictures, payment in Dollars, non-use (and ****ging-off) of paypal, new user, bidders ID protected....

Do I need to go on?

Does anyone know Peel Street in Kensington by any chance to confirm the shops existance?

Cheers - Frank

There is a Peel Street in Kensington, but this to me looks like a scam. No genuine photos, Buy it now *only*...

keep away!

Frank, that area is a small detour from my commute route. I could do a drive by if you'd like... or if you have a specific question for the shop I can see if they're open (if it exists!)

Looks a bit dodgy to me.
How do you manage to be a platiinum power seller complete with the logo "borrowed" from ebay when you have zero feedback?
Why does it have a US "toll free" phone no?

A very elaborate scam i think. Just think how long it would take to list 434 things on Ebay! The few i looked at were all different as well. I get the impression that the "seller" knows a bit about bikes though, for example road bikes are usually sold without pedals as most of the ads mention.

V. Suspect
 

Post code listed relates to Pembridge Gardens. Peel Street comes under W8.

They have also managed to transplant the shop onto the evens side of the road and at the opposite end to what it should be.

Its impressive isnt it...I think some sort of automated program must have been used to create all those 400 odd auctions and as has been said...if it looks to good to be true.

Rally...if you wouldnt mind having a look mate - 32 Peel Street - we could maybe save someone from being scammed...just hope I'm wrong

Cheers - Frank

Oh yes...nearly forgot - I did ask for some pictures from the seller and got a reply with some piccies of the bike I enquired about. Sadly a quick scan revealed the email originated from yahoo not from their 'website e-mail' heres the reply:

Hello,

You have the pictures attached.

We are overstock in 2004 bike models and because the
2005 models appeard, we took the decision to sell
these bikes more cheaper. THERE IS STOCK LIMIT !!!

The bike is in perfect condition, like new, no
problems or scratches on it. It will come in original
box with all the papers, manuals and manufacture
warranty documents .

The buy it now price for the bike is US$1,500.00. In
this price the shipment costs are included too. DO NOT
BID ON THE AUCTION, IT IS A FIXED PRICE SALE (if you
have already put a bid, please retract it asap). We
will start shipment in maximum 24 hours after payment
is received and we will provide you the tracking
number of shipment.

We will ship the bike using FedEx or UPS and in 5
work days the bike will be at your door.We will
support shipment insurance. The bike will be packed
professionally at our store.We will ship the bike with
the option AS A GIFT and you will not pay any extra
taxes.

After some complaints regarding Paypal (please visit
www.paypalsucks.com) we will not accept this method
anymore.

We had many problems in past with stolen identity
using credit card payment and we took the decision not
to use direct credit card payment.

We have 2 ways for payment: one via bank wire and is
available for UK and international customers and the
other one is via cash transfer. Bank wire can take few
days the money to be confirmed in our bank account and
that's why he have the seccond payment option which is
easy and fast. It will take only few minutes the
payment to be confirmed to us after you will send.

Please choose one payment method and we will give you
instructions.

After payment is confirmed in our bank account, it
will take maximum 24 hours your order to be processed
and shipment to be started. We will give you also the
tracking number for shipment to track your bike.



We will give you 3 days of inspection of the bike. In
case that you will not be satisfied with it, you will
return the bike to us and we will fully return your
money back. We will support all the costs.



Waiting your email,

Delin Cycles Shop

address: 23 Peel St, London, UK, W24DU

toll free number: 888-312-0789

website: www.delincycles.com

email: office@delincycles.com"

Reported to Ebay at 23:30, I feel there is enough evidence already - well done guys.

I just cant believe the number of people who have bid already - especially when its only a 3 day auction on ALL the items...lets hope Ebay work quickly.

Its what we pay them for I hope !

Cheers - Frank

Well done guys - nice one......Ebay is a tiny bit safer (just for today).

Have a look here http://bikestorefribourg.ch/Shop.htm then check out the pictures on the http://www.delincycles.com/ website...

Darren

... and then check out the picture of 23 Peel St.

Nice one Rally - you are the man!

Maybe you want to give the website owner a quick call?

www.delincycles.com = [ 84.22.184.100 ] Registrant:
Oladehinde Idowu
7506 Clarewood Dr.
Houston Texas 7703 6
US
Domain name: DELINCYCLES.COM
Administrative Contact:
Idowu Oladehinde belopondeq@cs.com
7506 Clarewood Dr.
Houston Texas 7703 6
US
44.8700500303 Fax: 44.1419317001

Hmmm that fax number is a Glasgow number, and the website is hosted here:

84-22-184-100.iomart.com = [ 84.22.161.57 ]
Domain Name.......... iomart.com
Creation Date........ 1998-10-29
Registration Date.... 2001-10-31
Expiry Date.......... 2008-10-28
Organisation Name.... angus macsween
Organisation Address. Iomart Group Todd Campus
Organisation Address. West of Scotland Science Park
Organisation Address. Glasgow
Organisation Address. G20 0XA
Organisation Address. uk
Organisation Address. GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Admin Name........... Host Master
Admin Address........ Fleming Pavillion Todd Campus
Admin Address........ West of
Admin Address........ Glasgow
Admin Address........ G20 0XA
Admin Address........ North Lanarkshire
Admin Address........ GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Admin Email.......... dns@iomart.co.uk
Admin Phone.......... 44 141 931 7000
Admin Fax............ 44 141 931 7001
Tech Name............ Host Master
Tech Address......... Todd Campus Fleming Pavilion
Tech Address......... West Of Scotland Science Park
Tech Address......... Glasgow
Tech Address......... G20 0XA
Tech Address......... North Lanarkshire
Tech Address......... GREAT BRITAIN (UK)
Tech Email........... names@nsl.net
Tech Phone........... 441.419317000
Tech Fax............. 441.419317001
Name Server.......... NS.IOMART.CO.UK
Name Server.......... NS2.IOMART.CO.UK


Looks like he's used the telephone & fax nunber of the ISP when registering it...

Jeez, we could start our own detective agency ;)

Wow - very impressed by all this, good going everyone.

Hmmm! good one guys!
 

So where is the best place to get that 52cm Cannondale R1000 triple in black for Mrs Psy?

Probably NOT Ebay - try Edinburgh bicycles or mootch on http://www.bikemagic.com

Antoyne & Rally.....

Excellent work alround guys - my next move was to try and hunt down who hosted the site and get em kicked off if possible...

You read my mind ;)

Cheers - Frank

[Edited on 2-2-2005 by Iconic944ss]

this scamming lark is getting huge

its ok for us cos we've seen this sort of thing a lot recently but its easy to see how someone new to ebay (or similar) could get duped by this



my wife had a transaction on her card for some in cartridges which she didnt buy. we got the delivery address from the cartridge suppliers for an office in the city. i picked her up from work & called in this office to see what was going on.
i took in a cardboard box & clipboard & pen with me to look like a courier & asked the security gaurd where i could find this bloke from this company.
he told me the person & company didnt exist. for all i know it coud've been him behind it!

i think the people involved in this kind of fraud are theiving scum, whats wrong with them? do they think they're too good to get up & go to work for a living like the rest of us?
:flame: :flame:

good work guys for getting rid of this one:eureka:

they think they're smart but of course, we can be smarter:D

Nice bit of team work!

Hi Ant , How does that all work then?

i'm no PC techie but i am interested!!!!

my lad has something called "NEO" trace and is into all this Tracking stuff

he found someone who had sent me a TROJAN Patch and traced them

but would not tell me who it was and he wont show me how it all works:(

says i'm too old to understand:lol::lol:

so what is it you do and how does it work?
regards mav

and ps great work guys ;)

Dude, I know kung-fu...


Much like in the real world, everything can be traced back to the originators if you just know where to look.

You don't get anything for free, and people have to pay for web hosting and domain names (the www.etc bit) and so if you know how to look these things up, then you can trace it back to the owner, or at least the person that paid the bills.

Using tools like Netcraft and SamSpade you can dig a load of information about websites and their hosts. In the real world you can use tools like Streetmap, Brainstorm and 192.com to track people and places down.

It's easy when you know how ;)