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DUCATI 999
" LOOK " " LOOK " " 999R " " LOOK " " LOOK " Item number: 4529702050

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5-day listing, Ends 25-Feb-05 20:51:32 GMT
Start time: 20-Feb-05 20:51:32 GMT
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YOU ARE BIDDING ON A DUCATI 999 R ! YES IT IS A "R" MODEL, HOWEVER ALL THE R PARTS HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND USED FOR RACING, THE PARTS REMOVED HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY STANDARD 999 PARTS, IT IS AN 03 BIKE AND HAS COVERED 2,800 MILES AND AS YOU CAN SEE LOOKS VERY NICE, THIS ALSO COMES WITH THE 999 R PLAQUE AND PRESENTATION CASE, THIS MOTORCYCLE IS NOT RECORDED AND IS H.P.I CLEAR. I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO END THE AUCTION AT ANY TIME.




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Sorry i didnt know how else to post it. A "genuine 999r,!" thats had all the R bits removed??? If you look closely at the frame ithas the multiple foot peg adjustments......You only get two on a real R. Fake!!!!

some poor sod might fall for it though, andy have you contacted the seller to see what they have to say? could be interesting.

Click here.......:P

[Edited on 21-2-2005 by Rushjob]

well spotted mate :cool:


barstwerds :mad::mad::mad::mad:

I was hoping some of the more techno guys on here, who i know are good at sabotage would do that. Its about covering your trail!;)

R my Arse.....Thats one of them old grey framed models :D

Shame one of your workmates could not setup a sting

[Edited on 21-2-2005 by electricsheep]

I think that's just the 749r

Good spot - this one is down to pure techical knowledge of the 999 series that I dont have (but I'd like to :) ).

Having said that - the guy appears to be 'reasonably' honest about the bike, he also has 100% feedback as well.

But.......with no reserve, if something looks to good to be true..................

Cheers - Frank

Your slipping Frank:D:D:D

Thing is, is the identity on the sale the real seller or is it a case of id theft? Like iconic says he does look too good to be true.

I think thats just the wannabee R :lol::lol:

I wonder where all the standard parts came from ?
It would cost more in parts that the cost of a 999r
Also what is he racing that has all the r parts

maybe he really did swap every part except the silver plate,
or maybe he just swapped the silver plate

Howcome the original 916 set the trend, then we put up with all the encarnations, 996 998 etc..... then when we get the original 999 the same doesnt apply? :lol::P:lol:

If you look at his feedback he sold a £700 ecu yesterday for £26quid and the buyer has left feedback already????????????????????????

Could one of the techy geniuses not post an interesting question so as to alert the unsuspecting?

I havnt reported it, dont just yet!

Looking at the 'seller's history i wonder if we could contact one of the persons that seller has done a deal with?

They may have exchanged email addresses or telephone numbers. Then we could speak with the genuine person prove hes had his id nicked and then................:puzzled:

Would the potential id thief have developed this scam as way back as dec 03? I doubt it. What about trying to contact that purchaser?

Since I know little of the 999 - it seems to me that this guy is trying to make out that a standard 999 was really a 999R originally and happens to have a 999R plaque and presentation case.

have I got this right?

Is it possible to recognise any parts as being from a 999R? It does not appear to have it written on the fairing etc.

Feedback - another good spot the ECU feedback is too soon unless the guy lives close and went and picked it up himself.

Logical route might be to email the bidders and warn them but....the the rooster might fly the coup !!!

Frank

I can not see any 999r parts. Everyting I can see is from a standard 999 BIP

I can't be certain about the frame.

BIP subframe
BIP seat unit
Front forks
Front Brakes
Fairings

All of these would be different on the R

The piccie appears to be a std 999 bip, there is nothing in the piccie to suggest 999r!

The whole suggestion of removing the R parts is so stupid it couldnt realistically be true.

If they were removed for racing, why not just use the whole bike. Whats left of the bike to call it an R?

The scam is so stupid to have drawn attention to themselves with the suggestion within the sale. You just wouldnt or couldnt do it! So why describe it as this? Why not just look to sell it as a std bike? The only answer i can think is for an appeal value, but then why not just stick a piccie up of a 999R ?

The giveaway is when you enlarge the picture. You can see the multiple holes on the bottom footpeg mount. A genuine R frame has just two for homologation.

I suppose he is hoping somebody not clued up falls for it. If he put a picture of an R up the buyer would probably spot the difference on collection???

[Edited on 21-2-2005 by jobr]

Oh and the std grey headlamp. It is of course magnesium even on a lowly 03 bike.....and you dont need that for racing!!:D

So why not just say its a standard 999 - whatever the background ????

Have just Emailed the seller asking for more details.

Frank

Fast reply:

My Email.......

"Hi, I'm very confused by this auction - is it a 999 with the 'R' engine fitted or have ALL the 'R' part been taken off - in which case does it not need to be re-registered in some way? two final questions - do you have the HPI check papers and would it be possible to view at all please?"

The Reply........

"THE FRAME / CHASSIS SPEEDO AND ELECTRICS ARE ALL THAT IS LEFT OF THE 999 R THE REST WAS USED FOR RACING AS SAID, EVERY THING ELSE WAS REPLACED WITH STANDARD PARTS, THE REGISTRATION HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED BECAUSE IT IS STILL THE ORIGINAL ( R ) FRAME , SO THEREFORE IT IS THE SAME REG NUMBER, IT IS H.P.I CLEAR AND YES I DO HAVE THE COPY, YOU ARE WELCOME TO COME AND HAVE A LOOK."

I'm more confused than ever ????????????

Frank

Need somebody from kent to pop round and have a look.:frog:

sounds like a build
from a frame that was never recorded as being wrote off

You can see here the multiple footrest mounts. This shows its not a 999r frame as they only have two!

two mount holes like this............

Good spot andyb, trouble is someone who isn't clued up is going to get well stung with this. Not that I would ever buy a vehicle of fleabay but I wouldn't know detail like you have just pointed out as I am sure many won't.

Well it's certainly been over as the clutch cover is bent in. Its probably an unrecorded build up, which would explain the change in engine or frame numbers when hpi'd I think you'd do better asking him what class he raced in and some other racing technical questions.

And if he races Ducati's surely he's seen DSC, he's got a computer!

have you seen the name of the highest bidder ?? :D

Have you seen his responses?

As already pointed out this seller has got a 32 rating with 100% feedback,
this is split more or less 50/50 as a buyer/seller. Prehaps this bloke just does not know what he is talking about (obvious I know) or what he has got, some one should point it out the technical errors in his description and see what he say's, I am quite happy to do this except I am not clued up on 999's. I also noticed he has been bidding on cars and car parts he may be a car dealer and may have taken the bike in as a part ex, and the racing story is just the one he was told.

Come on - any car dealer that takes a blind bit of notice of some guy's story without checking out the facts and knowing for definite what he's buying wouldn't last in the trade!

All car dealers will screw you for every last penny and know exactly the margins they're working on, and won't touch anything they don't know the exact price of.

It sounds more like a write-off & rebuild if you ask me.

LOL the highest bidders name is, "ITS A CON" hahaha.

/ian

If he provides the engine No. then surely its one phone call to DUK to check if its a 'R' or not?

ask him that question and see what he says.
infact i think i will.
/ian

ok i sent him the question.
[Edited on 22-2-2005 by weeian]

[Edited on 22-2-2005 by weeian]