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i see dave harris posted 51 bhp for his bike not sure what dave's running but is this what we should be expecting anyone else dynoed their bike.

That sounds like a 583 engine.

I know of a 58bhp bike, that's with standard pipes and a Big Bore.

I think 60-62 ish will be a good figure from a 620 or a sorted Big Bore.

have heard of a standard 620 producing high 50's and would expect a well sorted one to be low 60's. would be surprised if a well sorted 583 with big bore can better this.

looks like i'll be about 6 to 10bhp down on a fair few of the entrants then. Still thats what you get when racing on a budget. So far my whole project has cost £40 more than the tuning work & parts on my GSXR600.

Ditto !

But can the figures be compared between bikes?
What's the variation between all the different dyno's used?

Not sure how much difference it will make Nick - I was out yesterday and I felt I had an advantage out of corners on my ickle 600 as I could twist the throttle hard and not worry about spinning the rear where as they were having to be careful on a damp track.
I guess it's true what you blokes say - It's not size (cc's) that matter it's how you use it ;)

My bike has the big bore kit but had only run for about 20 minuites before the dyno run, fuelling is ok power curve is good and the torque curve is good It may be just a tight engine. When i have done some miles on it and a couple of races i will reasses the situation and will set the squish and dial in the cams if neccarsary!!

dave

Not sure it matters really, you kinda get what you're given. You make what mods you deem fit or affordable to you and then line up. Power is a factor, but not as important as rider ability.

Was it Barry Sheene who said "When the flag drops, the bullshiit stops" ???

Bring it on!
Tim

Does the bhp really make that much difference?

I did a track day on saturday and spent most of my sessions dicing with a guy on a classic with approx 80bhp less than me.

OK, so he has raced the manx etc, but it goes to show that its 80% rider and 20% bike!!

Can we start a sweepstake on who will win?

I think that's a given!!

domiski......

Unless i sabotage his bike somehow....no 1 is quick with 7 psi in the front tyre eh tony...?

LOL

Phil

as a note torque is the key............AND i got shed loads of it..............

;)

Phil

is that 'torque' or 'talk'


depending on which my betting would go in vastly different directions :P

No-one ;)

As Tim said ....the power and the bikes are all gonna be very close....its going to be rider skill, experience, race craft, knowing how to ride 55bhp bike and not a 130bhp bike, AND balls.................

Some have all the above and others have some of the above.....should be interesting.

Phil

So is my 76 rwbhp higher than average?

Could be a high reading dyno I suppose, how much can they vary?

read it again without the beer goggles m8.......:frog:

Phil

no i'd say thats about right for our bikes with the 660 big bore. oooppppsss............. did i say that outloud? :devil:

you will need it.................oooops did i say that outloud....


lol:devil:

:frog:

As for the sweepstake...

If I were allowed to put some redies on it (of course we're not, under the Sporting Code!) then my bet goes on AK's bike.

You don't have enough cash to buy dog tags! How are you going to spare some for betting?

Or is this 'sponsors' money?

:ninja:

err... Nick - wouldnt think so mate - its STILL in bits!:(

Forks STILL not back

Pistons only just arrived in Somerset - and a fortnight turnaround before they come back

Jockey for first race hasnt been on a track for 6 years or so - having only done one season when he did try it...

Best to stop where I am.... or will just depress myself further:(

edited to add that we havent even started on the zaust system yet.............

[Edited on 24-3-2005 by CK and AK]

but ck... with yuor organisation and ak's spannering, my (sponsors) money is still on #36!

Well maybe not for Cadwell cos I'll be winning that one with his lordship a distant second :D

off to Cadders now for some practice!

Not only the fastest but the best prepped bike with all the goodies...upgraded brakes shock etc etc etc......

best bike best rider.................

any1 know some jujuju doctor curses....:devil:

Phil

he still weighs only 12 stone or so...not fat imho...plus as it stands he could get on the bike unfit and still beat all of us.......we are all battling for 2nd .......hehe..............Bring it..

Phil

I believe there may be some other 'Dark Horses' than just Domski out there-roll on Cadwell.:devil:

John

And none of them are me :(

TP, watching from the back ....

tony, you really are a ringer!

bike set up by one of the top men,

winter testing/race schools in spain,

numerous pre race track sessions,

you'll be towing plenty around.

true words.......

u cant expect to announce something like that here on the due board and not expect us to want to know WHO ...!! its only the regulars that post here ! where are the Dark horses Monty...and WHO are they....

Spill the beans

Phil

:ninja::ninja:

I just typed up a response but ... suffice it to say that you guys have a lot more experience than I do on the track and at the tracks we're racing at. By doing what I'm doing I'm just trying to level out the playing field in a compressed timeframe.

We'll see how it goes .... but realistically I don't think I'm going to finishing before guys like you and Phil. If I do, I'll be very happy and give you loads of cr@p though ;)

Ooh, it picked up c r @ p and gave it a whoopsie ...!! Even with the @ !!!

why me...........i have no more experience than you....in fact i have less...i have done none of the " schools " that are so popular............

If i finish m8 with bike intact then im bloody happy......as for beating anyone, the only person i have to beat is the bank manager..............

Phil.

seems so ..................:(

Phil

Why you? Because I know you're faster than me! Everyone who I know is faster is a target, you just posted on the thread so it was natural to include you in the list above.

u dont know im faster than you ...i have never ridden with you on track...........stop crying wolf about how slow you are etc....u have no basis on which to assume im faster than you..........I have ridden with dom on track i KNOW how fast he is......the rest of you i have no idea about so i dont assume anything...........

Phil.....

As a famous large black man once said "Tell that b!tch to chill!"

I love you honeybunny ....

[Edited on 24-3-2005 by TP]

hmmmm, ok....

i could be mrs nasty here and say i have ridden with TP and Phil. Ok on different tracks and under different conditions......

:lol: