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WSB Phillip Island So the WSB circus is in Oz this weekend... What do you lot think? I know Tony will scream Corser again, but there's something like 6 Aussie's this year Will JT or RL get the 999 back on the winning streak? Will Haga shine on the R1? What about the Honda's? Vermuellen? Chilli? Bostrom? Stalker etc on the ZX10? McCoy/Martin on the FP1 maybe? Or will Yukio surprise all again? Who's your money on? |
Between Corser and Vermuellen with hopefully one of the 999's close behind. |
My money would be on Troy or Yukio... They seem to be flying on that new K5 :D |
Corser will walk this one. Be surprised if any of the 999's get anywhere to be honest. It's gonna be contentious, but I reckon their days at the front of WSB and BSB are gone for ever now. The goalposts have just been moved to far in favour of the rice burners. However - I hope I'm proved wrong! :sing: |
.....Wait for the V4's wait for the V4's... |
Corser all the way, chased by Yukio. |
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Then again, in bsb the GSE dooks held their own considering their year old kit. Remains to be seen for how long... I wonder if GSE decide to run 3 bikes.... [Edited on 31-3-2005 by Flanks] |
Corser all the way cant see ducati in the top 3. they need 4 cylinders or a cc advantage soon |
V4's! NOW! :D |
Corser. BSB - GSE need Lavilla now! |
Results after 1st qualifying as follows, 1, Troy corser 2, Yukio kagayama 3, Regis laconi 15, James toseland 7 out if the top 10 are aussies!! me thinks its a bit of a homer track:D:D |
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Aren't GSE running F05's ? |
Wouldn't have thought so. The factory is usually a year ahead of the satelite teams. However, there isn't as much difference as there used to be, I believe. |
Laconi and Toseland have recorded the fastest ever top speed at a WSB event whilst qualifying at Phillip Island...314kmh :eek: So you never know ! Still have to plump for Corser though...Laconi 3rd if hes lucky..bleedin jap shellsuits...!! Cheers Nat |
Hmmmmm, capacity effect, the twins should now be allowed to be 1358cc to be equal to a 1000cc 4cylinder using generally well accepted formulae for working out engine efficiency. Seems a bit more likely that Ducati will just homologate the V4 as a road bike..........that'll put the cat amongst the pidgeons.;) John |
Looks like Toseland's found some speed as well. More here |
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Nope. They're running F04s. They have Toseland and Laconi's bikes from last year. What spec has Hodgson got in the US? F04? |
While the may be "last year's" bikes. It'll only be by frame number. They will have upgraded as many parts as Ducati will make available to them, which probably will exclude the very latest engine parts and software. Hodgson's should have an identical bike to what Regis and James are riding. At least, they'll start out that way. |
1st Qualifying times then.... 1 Corser Troy Alstare Suzuki Corona Extra Suzuki GSXR1000 K5 22 1'33.191 2 Kagayama Yukio Alstare Suzuki Corona Extra Suzuki GSXR1000 K5 21 1'33.787 3 Laconi Régis Ducati Xerox Ducati 999F05 19 1'34.084 4 Pitt Andrew Yamaha Motor Italia WSB Yamaha YZF R1 21 1'34.094 5 Muggeridge Karl Winston Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR 1000RR 18 1'34.364 6 Vermeulen Chris Winston Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR 1000RR 23 1'34.405 7 McCoy Garry Foggy Petronas Racing Petronas FP1 20 1'34.491 8 Martin Steve Foggy Petronas Racing Petronas FP1 22 1'34.499 9 Sanchini Mauro PSG-1 Kawasaki Corse Kawasaki ZX10 19 1'34.676 10 Chili Pierfrancesco Klaffi Honda Honda CBR 1000RR 16 1'34.775 11 Abe Norick Yamaha Motor France-Ipone Yamaha YZF R1 24 1'34.960 12 Gimbert Sebastien Yamaha Motor France-Ipone Yamaha YZF R1 20 1'35.178 13 Cardoso Josè Luis D.F.X. Treme Yamaha YZF R1 17 1'35.237 14 Walker Chris PSG-1 Kawasaki Corse Kawasaki ZX10 17 1'35.282 15 Toseland James Ducati Xerox Ducati 999F05 24 1'35.344 16 Bussei Giovanni Kawasaki Bertocchi Kawasaki ZX10 21 1'35.381 17 Clementi Ivan Kawasaki Bertocchi Kawasaki ZX10 18 1'35.478 18 Pedercini Lucio Team Pedercini Ducati 999RS 16 1'35.565 19 Bostrom Ben Renegade Koji Honda CBR 1000RR 14 1'35.596 20 Haga Noriyuki Yamaha Motor Italia WSB Yamaha YZF R1 20 1'35.715 21 Alfonsi Lorenzo D.F.X. Treme Yamaha YZF R1 18 1'35.787 22 Lanzi Lorenzo Ducati SC Caracchi Ducati 999RS 19 1'35.976 23 Borciani Marco DFXtreme Sterilgarda Yamaha YZF R1 15 1'36.130 24 Vizziello Gianluca Italia Lorenzini by Leoni Yamaha YZF R1 19 1'36.556 25 Neukirchner Max Klaffi Honda Honda CBR 1000RR 13 1'36.788 26 Stroud Andrew Superbike New Zealand Suzuki GSXR1000 K4 21 1'36.873 27 Corradi Alessio Team Pedercini Ducati 999RS 19 1'37.457 28 Praia Miguel DFXtreme Sterilgarda Yamaha YZF R1 19 1'37.509 29 Nieto Fonsi Ducati SC Caracchi Ducati 999RS 14 1'37.603 |
What are Renegade Honda all about, then? :(:puzzled: |
What do you mean Felix? |
A seemingly complete lack preparations for a start, followed by lots of "teething" problems. Not reminiscent of their effort in 2004. Did they just underestimate the amount of work needed to turn the Blade into a race bike? MonsterMob seem to have done it. I suppose last year, they simply took the well developed 999RS, which they could just get on and ride. |
I think part of the problem was signing the deal with Honda and actually getting a bike, this took an age from my understanding and they only had 1 race bike for Qatar which promptly got destroyed in practice, Bostrom had to ride a road bike in the race. I think Mark saw the huge costs for running 4 999RS04's last year (2 per rider) and decided to cut back, the problem being with Ducati, Renegade had effectively become a satellite team similar to GSE, now he/they are pretty much on their own with limited budget and no time on the bike and as there are quite a few Blades this year I can't imagine they'll be too high up the pecking order for parts/support yet. At least with a Ducati you know you've got a pretty good package, costly yes, but pretty damn good from day one. |
RECORD TOP SPEED OF 316 KM/H FOR DUCATI XEROX RIDERS AT PHILLIP ISLAND: LACONI THIRD AS TOSELAND FOCUSES ON RACE SET-UP Phillip Island (Australia), Friday 1 April: Régis Laconi turned in the third quickest time in today's opening qualifying session for the second round of the World Superbike Championship at Phillip Island as his team-mate James Toseland concentrated on gaining a good set-up for Sunday's two races. Both Ducati Xerox Team riders showed blistering speed on their factory 999 machines today, Laconi establishing an outright WSBK championship record of 316 km/h around the spectacular 4.4 km island track in the morning, a top speed that was equalled later in the day by Toseland. Despite running a fever throughout the day, the 29 year-old Frenchman's time of 1m34.084s put him on the provisional front row of the grid behind the two Suzukis of Aussie Troy Corser and Yukio Kagayama from Japan but a fraction in front of a clutch of five more Australian riders on their home circuit. "I am quite pleased with what we did today, we got through a lot of work" declared Laconi. "I did a lot of laps but I have no more strength left in me because I've had a high temperature since this morning. Nothing to worry about however because I don't feel sick. Our 999 bikes are going really quick here but we know that in top speed we are second to no one. Still a few more things to do to get the bike the way I like it but I'm sure we'll make further progress tomorrow. At the end I put on a qualifying tyre, just to be on the safe side because you never know what the weather will be like tomorrow. We didn't come testing here this winter and the bike is very different from last year's so we virtually have to start from scratch. I really love this track, I might not be Australian but let's just pretend that I am, OK?". Toseland was the only top rider not to fit a qualifying tyre at the end of the session and ended up fifteenth quickest, but the reigning champion was not too concerned, having preferred to focus on his set-up for Sunday's two races. "It looks worse than it is because on race tyres we are in the top 3!" he joked. "We haven't used a qualifier, everyone else in front of me did so I'm feeling pretty good. I just stayed out there on a race tyre and put the work in. Around here you've got to know what the bike is going to do underneath you, and I remember from previous years that qualifying is one thing but the last six laps are another. I've worked hard today, I put a lot of laps together and my consistency is really good so I am happy. Ignore the timesheet, we can put a qualifier in at any time tomorrow and beat those times. I'm feeling good, every time I cross the line, I'm pleasantly surprised with the times I'm doing". TIMES: 1. Corser (Suzuki) 1m33.191s; 2. Kagayama (Suzuki) 1m33.787s; 3. Laconi (Ducati Xerox) 1m34.084; 4. Pitt (Yamaha) 1m34.094s; 5. Muggeridge (Honda) 1m34.364s; 6. Vermeulen (Honda) 1m34.405s; 7. McCoy (Petronas) 1m34.491s; 8. Martin (Petronas) 1m34.499s ... 15. Toseland (Ducati Xerox) 1m35.344s. |
Results after Superpole. So a Foggy Petronas 2nd on the grid then :o Our Jamie down in 10th:( |
what times it on tomorrow and what channel this year [Edited on 2-4-2005 by deej] |
LACONI AND TOSELAND ON ROWS 2 AND 3 FOR DUCATI XEROX TEAM AS SUPERPOLE PACE HOTS UP - LACONI IMPROVES ON TOP SPEED RECORD WITH 318 KM/H! Phillip Island (Australia), Saturday 2 April: Régis Laconi and James Toseland (Ducati Xerox Team) will start tomorrow's Australian Round of the World Superbike Championship at Phillip Island from rows 2 and 3 of the grid respectively as a highly-competitive Superpole qualifying session produced a few surprises. Neither the Frenchman, seventh after the two qualifying sessions, nor his British team-mate, five places lower, were able to make much of a surge up the grid in the one-lap dash despite both shaving vital tenths from their times and they ended up eighth and tenth. Both riders are confident with their race set-up however and are convinced that the two 22-lap races will see a different outcome. "I didn't do a good lap in Superpole, it wasn't that bad because we got under the 1m34s mark but we were missing a bit everywhere" declared Laconi. "I'm on row 2 and I absolutely have to get a good start otherwise the others will get away. We are all more or less there, no one rider has that much of an advantage. Superpole is becoming more competitive race after race, it's only a question of tenths, but remember that's only in qualifying, the race is another thing". After setting the top speed record of 316 km/h yesterday, Laconi went even quicker today, ending up at 318 km/h, an extraordinary performance from the twin-cylinder Testastretta-engine Ducati 999 that was achieved with the contribution of the special fuels and lubricants developed for the Factory '05 machine by technical partner Shell. "Yesterday we were already quick at 316 km/h and today we went even faster. If we go any quicker tomorrow, at this rate we'll be approaching the speed of the MotoGP bikes!" added Laconi. Toseland was clearly disappointed with his row 3 starting position, but is confident that his good race set-up will enable him to be up at the front tomorrow. "I don't know what happened there with everyone in the 33s, I thought my 34 flat in the free practice would have put me second or third and I'm tenth on the grid" he declared. "I'm not happy, I really stuck my neck out even to do a 34 flat so we've got a bit more work to do on the bike. It's going to be difficult from the third row of the grid, but we've been very consistent on race tyres and hopefully we can get into the low 34s to be there or thereabouts, but the main problem is if the leaders get away. It's going to be a real endurance test tomorrow, the tyres will be a problem after half distance and whoever keeps it together will bring it home. It's going to come round to grip in the end and who's got the best race set-up and that's what I've been concentrating on all weekend". TIMES: 1. Kagayama (Suzuki) 1m33.241s; 2. Martin (Petronas) 1m33.301s; 3. Neukirchner (Honda) 1m33.375s; 4. Corser (Suzuki) 1m33.398s; 5. Pitt (Yamaha) 1m33.461s; 6. Muggeridge (Honda) 1m33.557s; 7. McCoy (Petronas) 1m33.676s; 8. Laconi (Ducati Xerox) 1m33.837s; 9. Vermeulen (Honda) 1m34.053s; 10. Toseland (Ducati Xerox) 1m34.068s; etc. TV COVERAGE: British Eurosport (UK): Saturday 2 April, 1500 BST Superpole (delayed); Sunday 3 April, 0300 BST race 1 (live), 0630 BST race 2 (live); Monday 4 April, 0830 and 2000 BST all races (repeat). Eurosport (Europe): Saturday 2 April, 1300 CET Superpole (delayed); Sunday 3 April, 0400 CET race 1 (live), 0730 race 2 (live). La7 (Italy): Saturday 2 April, 1700 CET Superpole (delayed); Sunday 3 April, 1620-1900 CET races 1 & 2 (delayed). |
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Shame I can't quite get the same ' feeling ' with the lottery numbers:( [Edited on 3-4-2005 by dave w] |
Not much said about this.... Caution SPOILER included So the usual suspects up front so far this year, Corser doing well again, Kagayama in race 2 sideways in the rain several times, what was he playing at??? :o Felt sorry for Stalker getting to the front and Harry Highsiding it, pretty much like 1/2 of the field to be fair. Laconi did well to finish at all in race 2, let alone grab 5th(???) And what's going on with Toseland? I can't see him defending his title this year, he and the bike are going to need some major turn in fortunes unfortunately, and some bad luck be sprinkled liberally around the field |
Watched Max Neukirchner mixing it with the big boys and holding his own. Looks like a new star in the making? Pity he is on a Honda! Felt for Walker but he should have known better than that, he was easily the most confident in the wet and must have kicked himself silly after his off. Then again, ZX10 in the wet :o Did anyone see what went on with Muggeridge and Toseland? Muggers was behind him just before the crash so whether he touched his back wheel or slid off and took him out?? |
Ducati's website says that Muggers hit Toseland, but then maybe they would. Even Witham thought Muggers looked guilty, though. |
Crash.net have Toseland blaming Muggers |
In for a penny in for a pound. I think it was his fault too, he looked v sheepish in the pits afterwards? :pig: (I know its a pig but there is no sheep there) |
he was trying to push him along me thinks, as the commentators said, lucky he can play the piano. |
I've just returned from the Phillip Island round of WSBK, and have to say Troy deserved his victories.I must credit all the aussie riders for signing autographs etc on the saturday pitwalk,no sign of Toseland or Walker. |
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