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My new 748 - questions :-) Hiya all, I've just bought a 1998 infostrada rep 748 from Ducati Wolverhampton, its taken me 3 years and 3 bikes, but I now have my Duke, and I love it!! Anyway. My bike has Carbon Micron end cans which sound wicked and look really nice, but I'm thinking of putting termi's on it. Id like to ask you good people if you thinks its worth changing the Microns to 50mm termis or leaving the bike as it is? Also, Im looking to slowly improve the bike bit by bit, I need to ring the garage again and find out exactly what its had done (my brain forgets everything), but could any of you advice good mods to invest in. Many thanks for any help! Regards -Ray. P.S will post pics soon :D |
You could take the Micron stickers off and put Termi stickers on and no one would probably know, plus save at least £500 in the long run. Good mods, bling, bling, bling, take your pick:bouncy: |
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Ducati Ownership (tm) :) Personally, I'd leave the cans as they are if you really want the termi look, for stickers try ebay. You're unlikely to gain any improvement in performance or sound that's worth the added expense of switching from Micron to Termi. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW As for mods, take a look through this thread, see what you think... http://217.199.188.40/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=17890 I've a '97 748, and listed a few things in the thread, but it depends what you want, show or go??? Good choice in bike btw. |
Yep - its a tough one, in actual fact the Termis are not the best made cans, but they are the "right" cans for a Duacti. I'm not sure of the build quality of the Microns, but many of the Termis do fall short of the production qualities of other exhaust manufacturers. If its the right name you're after, go for Termis (or termi stickers,;). But sticking with Microns will offer no power advantage or disadvantage (unless you go for a larger system) over the Termis. I assume your pipes would be a 45mm end can system, a swap to 50mm end cans is an option, some power could be gained, but it would probably be minimal unless it was in conjunction with other mods. You could go for a full 50mm system, but again minimal gains - it would sound great though.# One more thing - do you know if she has had the chip swapped to support the Microns? Might be worth checking to ensure that the fueling hasd been modded to suit the open cans. Tim |
Hi Ray Termis always look so right on dukes. My mates 9** microns never looked quite right IMO as they had a very glossy finish to the carbon..but not sure what yours are like ? Just sent you a U2U anyway.. Cheers Nat |
Bang a slipper in and finish it of with a nice clutch plate and vented cover from corner speed :) |
Someone whose opinion I rate says, when people ask him if they should fit a slipper, he asks "Do you find the rear end "chatters" when you're braking into a corner (on road or track)". If the answer is no, or "I don't know what you mean", then, they don't need a slipper clutch. Sounds like good sense to me. I'd have thought, for the vast majority of people, a converntional clutch is best for road use. If it's just a track-day tool, then that could be different. |
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That's exactly the reason I fitted one, locking the rear up all the time on the road :( and couldn't blip the throttle enough for it to compensate. Locked the rear several times during TA3 at Rockingham, entering the hairpin, and the uphill right hander...backed right off after that. [Edited on 1-4-2005 by Mr_S] |
you want a set of 50mm Blue Flames ;) shiny stainless steel pipes look so much better than carbon :P Slipper clutches well if you going to race or do trackdays all year yes ok but for normal road use it's just another piece of bling to bolt on your bike :P and they wear quicker than normal clutches as well |
dont buy blue flames, ive had two pipes off them for non ducati bikes and terrible quality, on my r6 the bracket fell off rubbing on the rear tyre leaving me a 30mile ride home with it held on by gaffer tape how much rear brake do yuo guys use on the road, ive got size 11 feet and find it difficult to locate the rear brake sometimes ??? plus when i do use it it feels crap anyway |
the ones on my 748 are fine a sod to fit but then it was the first time i had done it |
Well I have a pair of 45mm Microns with said mentioned eBay Termignoni stickers and no-one has ever flagged me up on it yet. Yes, the carbon is gloss finish but the build quality is excellent. I was talking to a Duke mechanic today who also said the 748 doesn't particularly like 50mm cans and is a pain to set them up. Perhaps something to consider? |
mines got 50mm termi's on and it runs fine, think it helps that they were set up at jhp |
My 748's got 50mm Termi's and a JHP chip and it runs fine too! |
Said Duke mechanic obviously knows dick! |
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Deej, You'll find the rear brake packs up at after about 30 uses after a service ..... so most people use it about twice a month ... I never use mine .... |
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He was probably thinking of a full 50mm system you'd have to have a highly tuned bike to utilise it properly, a 45 to 50 mm set up (ie standard 45mm downpipes with 45 to 50mm intermediates to the cans ) should be no problem as as pointed out and as on mine a jhp chip about £25 is spot on , mine idled perfectly and fuelling was perfect |
Just to put my 2p worth in as a (relitively) new 748 owner who has fitted some of these bits. 50mm Termis (half system) do work OK but you loose a bit in the bottom end tractability. 45mm is apparently best unless you are considering other engine mods such as an 853cc conversion or spend most of your time in the top half of the rev band. Also they are LOUD if this matters to you. I fitted a slipper clutch as I did find the back end locks when braking hard mostly on the track but it did it in the damp on roads as well. Rear brake; see above - soo much engine braking rear brake only required for slow speed maneouvering really. |
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