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888heaven 01-Apr-2005 23:29

888 problems
 
First up after cleaning all the crap off the swinging arm to remove it from the bike there appears to be a large fracture inline with the shaft chain side,it appears repairable.
I dont know if this is a common problem or extremly rare.
It may be wise to check your swinging arm when next replacing the chain set.
Im also replacing all the wheel bearings the rear wheels where tough but came out with only a bit of violence,front ones slightly different as it is not clear in the ducati manual if you drive the speedo drive and dust cover out with the bearing in one go or have to remove these seperately,?but how?
other problems incountered are siezed bolts holding the side stand support bracket these bolts where extremely hard and I had to helicoil one as all the threads where gone as the casing is ally.
the nuts holding the rear suspension are prone to seizing and where hard to get a socket on youll need a very thinwalled socket.
all the disc carriers bolts are seized and Im not sure wether its worth drilling these out as the wheel could be damaged.
head bearings where rusty and very notchy with no grease visible at all (Nelly says this is common) these where easy to knock out and replace.
Ducati no longer produce a gasket for the alternator casing and is replaced with a sealant let you know if it works.
Suspension due back from ProV Twins today so another peice of the jigsaw,will it be ready for the summer god only knows?
ian


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Nattyboy 01-Apr-2005 23:50

Ian

Dont worry about the alternator gasket..very few casing gaskets are available anymore..theyve all been replaced with the liquid gasket which is very good and easy to use.

Sorry to hear about your other 'mishaps'..let us know how you get on..

Cheers
Nat

Rob B 02-Apr-2005 09:12

Arrgh. Sorry to hear this tale of woe. Coppaslip time on reasembly me thinks.

psychlist 02-Apr-2005 21:50

Cripes!
 
Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble Ian!?! Shame it's such a lovely bike or you wouldn't be likely to feel guilty about changing it for something like a 999 eh ;)
I'm sure you'll have it sweet as a nut before long mate :cool:

Rob B 02-Apr-2005 22:06

If you're really stuck, I have just grabbed up a spare swingarm. I was only gount to use it as a space model to build up my new rear wheel assy onto the 25mm rear axle. Give ne a shout if you need it. Conversly, I know a s**t hot ally, well actully, any metal welder.

Rgds, Rob

RightSaidFred 02-Apr-2005 22:38

Ian, sorry to hear about all the grief! It's funny but I had similar probs to the others this winter myself. My swingarm is ok, but all the linkages were pretty dry so I cleaned and re greased tham all. The rose joints on the swingarm likn where it connects to the swingarm were a little notchy but these seem ok after clean/ re grease. There's little grease nipples on them but no one seems to bother! Head bearings were the same. Disc bolts, don't ever even bother trying to remove these with a conventional allen key, it's impact driver with allen socket all day long. Ditto sidestand bracket.\
Best of luck! :D

888heaven 03-Apr-2005 22:25

Thanks for the sypathetic words chaps.
I think most of the problems are just due to age as the bike has an excellent service history but things like disc carriers etc dont get taken off very often and steel and ally dont mix well long term.
compared to the amount of time and money I had to spend on the Guzzi to bring it back from the dead this is nothing in comparison.
are there any words of wisdom on removing the front wheel bearing and speedo drive?
Rob fortunately I can weld ally myself but thanks for the offer.
RightSaidFred tried impact driver and snapped one allen key and stripped the hex in the bolt with the harder one.
I think drilling them out is the only route left.
ian

shmoki 19-Apr-2005 11:35

Not sure if you've tried this, but the best thing about steel and aluminium is that their thermal expansion coefficients are different. Basically they expand and contract differently when cooled or heated. Going through the process of heating and cooling can in most instances break the oxide binding between the two metals, and the bolts should come out more easily. However don't do the heating or the cooling rapidly or you could cause fractures in the metal. Hard to do in Australia as it's 30c outside, but it's probably cold enough outside in England to give you enough temperature range. Good luck...

Nattyboy 25-Apr-2005 02:59

Ian

This might be your lucky day ??!!


Nat
http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/s...616#post105616

888heaven 27-Apr-2005 00:35

S--t missed it by the look of things U2Us down
thanks Natty.
have you still got the tergis.
ian:mad:

Nattyboy 29-Apr-2005 10:17

U2U sent Ian..

Nat

Mike Cecchini 07-May-2005 18:14

Yo 888heven

Now you know why it's a good idea to keep a clean machine. Swiagrm cracks are some what common as I have had one on my 851 and 888.

A proper welder can make it good as new, so don't pony-up for the $$ to Ducati as you get raped well enough on other Ducati items.

Fwiw......it also a good idea to remove all bolts every year or so because Ducati seems to put these bikes together with salt water.

Remove, clean and put back with anti-seize compound and you'll not have to deal with heli-coils at all.

And yes.......the alternator side cover paper gasget has been unavailable for years now.........seems the bean counters thought the 3 cents for this gasget was too much money to spend on a Ducati.

The Ducati-bond they want you to use works well, but you'll play hell getting the cover off next time. But they don't want you to think about that one. Fugg 'em, I managed to stock up on the paper gasgets long ago and use wheel bearing grease on it when I install. Presto !! No problems getting it off and no leaks at all. Amazing ......eh ??

Even if you do spring a leak, use Hylomar (Rolls, BMW and Jags use it) on your new or old gasget and it will seal like new. The beauty of Hylomar is that it never sets-up and allows removal without all the &%$*^%$ associated with all the "bond 'n seal" products.

Start being a bit more pro-active with your Duck and you won't have to be so reactive.

Mike

888heaven 09-May-2005 19:06

After what seems like an eternity the old T8 is back blasting the Sussex roads but not with out a last kerfufle.
Had a new chip put in the comp put it back on the bike filled with oil/coolant dropped her off the engineering stand battery back on. press the red button lots of spinning motion but no go S--t S--t S--t of course it wouldant be the chip would it brand new HO HUM after hours of checking electrics and connections at 1 oclock in the morning I throw in the towel, petrol and match in hand.
So just in the off chance I phoned ProV (the chip came from them) oh it could be the chip they said so friday evening comp out change back to old one and VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOM THANK F--K""""""""""""""""""""
Run it up to temp top up coolant etc late again so off to bed.
Sat arrives Phyclist pops by for the first run out and the bloody batterys flat jump start her and where away Oh no into gear and the clutch is slipping ARGHHHHHHHH.
Paul has to go and Im left with a miserable morning luckly he took all my hammers with him.
Back off with the fairing (so many bloody screws) clutch cover off everything looks ok read instructions again yep all plates present and correct.
fix you do need both plates at the begining not the one that is the fitting instructions so with the added plate from the old clutch I had power to the back wheel.
JOY/JOY/JOY blast done to Motorapido to meet up with everyone.
So a BIG thanks to everyone that gave advice tecnic help and moral support, It would have been impossible with out the webs support.
the bike flys with a smaller front sprocket and handles much better with the Hyperpro sus.
Specail thanks to Paul for his extreme patience and polishing skills.
ian

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Jasper 09-May-2005 21:21

Result-At last!That's how i felt when i first got the SP5.Lots of little niggles(like it catching fire,the flywheel dropping off and the sprag clutch failing!!),but sorted now!:D


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