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fil2 19-Apr-2005 16:02

Out of competition interest.
 
Is there a definitive list of who is racing in the Desmo due.! and who if any are racing as a " guest "..we have i think 34 entrants.? and i probably know 20..im keen to know who the rest are...........


Phil

dickieducati 19-Apr-2005 16:04

do new era post a list of entrants for their races when they are all confirmed?

chicken 19-Apr-2005 16:05

Is anybody even confirmed yet? I haven't got my forms back from them yet....

chicken 19-Apr-2005 16:09

just spoke to the very nice Phil at New Era. He said they have not sent anything out yet but we should receive at the end of this week/early next week.

He recognised my name so I'm definitely down for it (although Phil already knows me so I guess that doesn't count!)

TP 19-Apr-2005 16:13

Cool, nice one Chi.

Apparently the bulk of the SOT numbers are riding small capacity Ducati's ... :lol:

NBs996 19-Apr-2005 16:20

If i've been keeping up to speed properly, then there's 37 entries.
There should be a complete entry list in the new era programme for each meet, but that's probably not available until race weekend.

Would be interested to know what guest riders are lined up...

fil2 19-Apr-2005 16:25

Sure a name on the New ERA entry list is great.........but would be interesting to know a little about the other riders.......most of us on here know one another etc but the " nameless " are a mystery..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

Phil

Just curious like always good to know the competion

NBs996 19-Apr-2005 16:30

I know what you're saying phil, but I think the only way to find out is to go'n shine a light in their eyes at cadwell!

chicken 19-Apr-2005 16:38

Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
Sure a name on the New ERA entry list is great.........but would be interesting to know a little about the other riders.......most of us on here know one another etc but the " nameless " are a mystery..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

Phil

Just curious like always good to know the competion

Phil, this is a really good way to work yourself up into a lather. The evidence shows you're a quick rider but if you keep up this mindset I daresay that even I would fancy my chances against you :lol:.

NBs996 19-Apr-2005 16:42

Yeah, pull yourself together man...
Forget these MRO pretenders - there's NO competition!!

fil2 19-Apr-2005 16:45

Quote:

Originally posted by chicken
Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
Sure a name on the New ERA entry list is great.........but would be interesting to know a little about the other riders.......most of us on here know one another etc but the " nameless " are a mystery..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

Phil

Just curious like always good to know the competion

Phil, this is a really good way to work yourself up into a lather. The evidence shows you're a quick rider but if you keep up this mindset I daresay that even I would fancy my chances against you :lol:.

Nowt to do with getting worked up Chi or with my mindset.???....."to defeat your enemy you must make him your friend to find his weakness"

but seriously im interested to know ! anyone that has been in a competative environment before will understand that and why is it so hard for the powers that be to give us the info.?

phil

ps..yeah im ok..pretty fast..you all know that but what do you know about the " nameless " entrants huh.?

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by fil2]

dickieducati 19-Apr-2005 16:46

Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?



just makes me beg the question, why?

its a bit like tierry henry playing against the local pub team and banging loads of goals past them. cant imagine he would gain a whole lot of satisfaction from it.:puzzled:

Tonio600 19-Apr-2005 16:47

What does MRO mean ?

fil2 19-Apr-2005 16:48

Quote:

Originally posted by dickieducati
Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?



just makes me beg the question, why?

its a bit like tierry henry playing against the local pub team and banging loads of goals past them. cant imagine he would gain a whole lot of satisfaction from it.:puzzled:

well that could be said for a few of the entrants .

Phil

dickieducati 19-Apr-2005 16:49

i dont mind though, i'm not at all selective with who i take out! :D

Tonio600 19-Apr-2005 16:50

Quote:

Message original : dickieducati
Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?



just makes me beg the question, why?

its a bit like tierry henry playing against the local pub team and banging loads of goals past them. cant imagine he would gain a whole lot of satisfaction from it.:puzzled:

Don't worry, I am sure he doesn't even have a full motorbike driving license :lol:

fil2 19-Apr-2005 16:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
Quote:

Message original : dickieducati
Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?



just makes me beg the question, why?

its a bit like tierry henry playing against the local pub team and banging loads of goals past them. cant imagine he would gain a whole lot of satisfaction from it.:puzzled:

Don't worry, I am sure he doesn't even have a full motorbike driving license :lol:

Im sure the " DSC " would make an exception ..?:frog:


Phil

TP 19-Apr-2005 16:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
What does MRO mean ?

Not sure what it means really, but it is the national club series. One below BSB if you like.

dickieducati 19-Apr-2005 17:03

i'm looking forward to a complaint from one of the guest riders..............................

"i cant believe he took me out, didnt look like he knew what he was doing, he was all over the place, riding like a complete novice"

"errr, your point is?"

antonye 19-Apr-2005 17:04

Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
Don't worry, I am sure he doesn't even have a full motorbike driving license :lol:

:rolleye:

Je lisais la version française de votre blog - elle est bien mieux que la version anglaise ! ;)

AK 19-Apr-2005 17:09

:puzzled: I thought there was a thread on this last week - with all the riders listed - except the 'guest' of Ducati UK?

C:)

edited, found Domski's list of cadders riders:

0 ducati uk guest rider
2 phillip huntley
3 kevin palmer
5 dave reilly
6 lin jones
7 ali bisson
8 geoff spencer
9 peter yates
10 chris wood/james thompson
11 dave harris
12 tony perrin
13 chi chan
21 tim howard
22 michael winter
23 dominic cann
26 mike dawson
33 mike atack
34 nick boustead
36 andy johnson (AK & CK's machine)
42 ian leah
44 kevin mooney
45 mark foskett
47 richard thirkettle
61 paul muggeridge
62 clint de taanwsky
65 duncan moore
68 paul payne
69 jean-paul hackett
77 chris butcher
82 antoine josserand
88 kevin ellis
99 andrew roberts
111 antony espindola

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by CK and AK]

chicken 19-Apr-2005 17:13

Quote:

Originally posted by fil2

Nowt to do with getting worked up Chi or with my mindset.???....."to defeat your enemy you must make him your friend to find his weakness"

but seriously im interested to know ! anyone that has been in a competative environment before will understand that and why is it so hard for the powers that be to give us the info.?

phil

ps..yeah im ok..pretty fast..you all know that but what do you know about the " nameless " entrants huh.?

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by fil2]

My favourite Sun Tzu line;
"Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him." Here kitty, kitty.....:rodent:

I must say I disagree with the analogy. If Rossi was a guest rider, you could study the tapes all you wanted but it still wouldn't stop him pi$$ing off into the distance.

On the day, I'll be busy fixing whatever happens to have broken and might spare a glance at the qualifying times.

fil2 19-Apr-2005 17:14

Quote:

Originally posted by CK and AK
:puzzled: I thought there was a thread on this last week - with all the riders listed - except the 'guest' of Ducati UK?

C:)

edited, found Domski's list of cadders riders:

0 ducati uk guest rider
2 phillip huntley
3 kevin palmer
5 dave reilly
6 lin jones
7 ali bisson
8 geoff spencer
9 peter yates
10 chris wood/james thompson
11 dave harris
12 tony perrin
13 chi chan
21 tim howard
22 michael winter
23 dominic cann
26 mike dawson
33 mike atack
34 nick boustead
36 andy johnson (AK & CK's machine)
42 ian leah
44 kevin mooney
45 mark foskett
47 richard thirkettle
61 paul muggeridge
62 clint de taanwsky
65 duncan moore
68 paul payne
69 jean-paul hackett
77 chris butcher
82 antoine josserand
88 kevin ellis
99 andrew roberts
111 antony espindola

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by CK and AK]

Thats good...but who are they LOL........do they have dsc sign on names....

We want History, Where from, Experience, for instance who is the DLS rider.? etc etc dont we..??...or is that just me....:devil:

Phil

fil2 19-Apr-2005 17:17

Quote:

Originally posted by chicken
Quote:

Originally posted by fil2

Nowt to do with getting worked up Chi or with my mindset.???....."to defeat your enemy you must make him your friend to find his weakness"

but seriously im interested to know ! anyone that has been in a competative environment before will understand that and why is it so hard for the powers that be to give us the info.?

phil

ps..yeah im ok..pretty fast..you all know that but what do you know about the " nameless " entrants huh.?

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by fil2]

My favourite Sun Tzu line;
"Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him." Here kitty, kitty.....:rodent:

I must say I disagree with the analogy. If Rossi was a guest rider, you could study the tapes all you wanted but it still wouldn't stop him pi$$ing off into the distance.

On the day, I'll be busy fixing whatever happens to have broken and might spare a glance at the qualifying times.

sure no information would prepare you for Rossi but it would be nice to know he was entering....and you may be fixing your bike while others might want to study the competition what is wrong with wanting to know who is entering ..??? who you are lined up against etc......i fail to see that as a problem.......

Phil

antonye 19-Apr-2005 17:18

Yes, it's just you Phil :rolleye:

Tonio600 19-Apr-2005 17:20

Quote:

Message original : antonye
Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
Don't worry, I am sure he doesn't even have a full motorbike driving license :lol:

:rolleye:

Je lisais la version française de votre blog - elle est bien mieux que la version anglaise ! ;)

Really ? Thank you.
So you can read French...
And so my English is crap :(

I keep hoping to be able to make jokes in English one day (anyway I won't leave your island before this...).

antonye 19-Apr-2005 17:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
And so my English is crap :(


It's better than my French!

I never realised that "huile de coude" was an expression the French used - that made me laugh!

fil2 19-Apr-2005 17:25

Quote:

Originally posted by antonye
Yes, it's just you Phil :rolleye:

thought so.....did not expect anything less.


:rolleye:

TP 19-Apr-2005 17:30

I can't see anything wrong with Phil wanting to know who is involved. I don't think I need to worry about it too much because it's not really going to have an impact on my preparation regardless.

People prepare for things in their own way, Phil has competed in sport to a high level and if this is what works for him then cool - no big deal.

Jools 19-Apr-2005 17:48

Quote:

Originally posted by dickieducati
Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?



just makes me beg the question, why?

its a bit like tierry henry playing against the local pub team and banging loads of goals past them. cant imagine he would gain a whole lot of satisfaction from it.:puzzled:

I can't understand what satisfaction people get out of being a real big fish in a small pond either, but people do it.

When I was club rallying back in the 80's we were all in Mk III Escorts and 2.3 Chevettes and yet one bloke with shed loads of money used to turn out in an ex-works Metro 6R4, full support crew in a damn great artic truck, racks of OZ wheels with a huge selection of tyres from forest tyres to slicks...and yes, he used to win...by miles. But where is the fun in that?

Competition, it gets crazy you know

antonye 19-Apr-2005 17:53

Somebody has to win, but yes Jools that is a bit extreme!

chicken 19-Apr-2005 17:56

Quote:

Originally posted by fil2

sure no information would prepare you for Rossi but it would be nice to know he was entering....and you may be fixing your bike while others might want to study the competition what is wrong with wanting to know who is entering ..??? who you are lined up against etc......i fail to see that as a problem.......

Phil

Phil - relax man, I'm not having a dig at you. I'm just putting forward a different point of view.

I'm less worried about the competitors I don't know and more worried about the ones that I do know!

eg You've met me, but you don't know how I ride - do I try and hold the inside line? am I slow-in & quick-out or vice-versa (or slow-in & slow-out)? what is my riding history?
Even with the interviews that Phill did, you're only seeing the tip of the iceberg for each rider. Multiply that by 34 and it makes for a lot of unknowns - better to just get on with it!;)

Tonio600 19-Apr-2005 18:19

Quote:

Message original : antonye
Somebody has to win...

AND IT WILL BE ME :devil:

Tonio - still trying to make my first joke in English... :D

Rattler 19-Apr-2005 18:29

Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
Sure a name on the New ERA entry list is great.........but would be interesting to know a little about the other riders.......most of us on here know one another etc but the " nameless " are a mystery..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

Phil

Just curious like always good to know the competion

It would be good to know - I agree with Phil - I reckon that anyone NOT in an orange vest will become a great target - if you manage to beat any of these you should get double points I reckon !!!! ;)

phoenix n max 19-Apr-2005 18:52

Even if Rossi did enter - there's only so much you can do with 600-620 monster or ss around Cadwell Woodlands circuit.
Roll on raceday - then we'll all know where we stand or fall.

domski 19-Apr-2005 21:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
What does MRO mean ?

Motorcycle Racing Organisation


...I think ;)

lizzie 19-Apr-2005 21:02

Quote:

why is it so hard for the powers that be to give us the info.?

Hate to interfere with your conspiracy theory Fil, but the Race Committee have exactly the same information about the previous race experience/competency of all the other entrants as they do about you - namely zilch.

And AFAIK DucatiUK haven't decided who the guest riders are after Cadwell.

You're going to have to be patient and get your spies to infiltrate the other camps at Cadwell I am afraid ;)

domski 19-Apr-2005 21:10

Quote:

And AFAIK DucatiUK haven't decided who the guest riders are after Cadwell.

So who are they at Cadwell then? :saint:

bradders 19-Apr-2005 21:32

Quote:

Originally posted by domskidue
Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
What does MRO mean ?

Motorcycle Racing Organisation


...I think ;)

or another way, bloody fast!!

Iconic944ss 19-Apr-2005 21:40

Quote:

Originally posted by bradders
Quote:

Originally posted by domskidue
Quote:

Originally posted by Tonio600
What does MRO mean ?

Motorcycle Racing Organisation


...I think ;)

or another way, bloody fast!!

Yes indeed it is.....here we go.......................

http://www.bemsee.co.uk/

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