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over idling 749s Hi all, been meaning to register for a while now, but suddenly have a reason (apologies) End of last year I joined the club with a 749s, and what a bike, absolutely love it. However it has developed a small glitch (don’t they all) after a riding for a while the idle speed seems to stick anywhere around 4000 to 6000rpm, its a bit scary to loose engine braking and be pushed through the corners. Its been back to the dealer once, and they came back with a shrug of the shoulders saying they could not find a stored problem, or reproduce it. Now its becoming more of a frequent problem, the dealer thinks it might be a leaking air manifold, Im not so sure, as if you switch the bike off and wait a few minutes before restarting normal service is resumed. Also the throttle feels as if its operating normally, suggesting its not a sticky cable of butterflies. Anyone had or heard of this before? Cheers Russ |
Unacceptable, take it to another dealer. |
Agreed :) |
well, that is an option, but out of the goodness of my heart Im giving them one more crack of the wip at it.............am i being a fool, I will let you know in early may |
Where are you based? and which dealer? I'd try contacting someone like JHP or Nelly and see if they have heard of the problem, I know JHP would be able to connect their computer etc and see if anything has been flagged by the ECU etc |
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If you are taking it back to them I'd consider explaining that this is a safety issue, could easily cause an accident, and suggest to them that if they can't resolve it themselves that they contact Ducati UK for assistance? Try a nice approach and see how you go. As the bike is under warranty, if they couldn't fix it then perhaps it opens an opportunity for a replacement? Just hypothesizing. |
From the last time it was looked at there where no stored messages within the CPU, Im up in Aberdeen, so I figured I will give the dealer another shot, this time they are taking it more seriously, fully agree that this is a serious safety issue. I was curious to know if anybody has heard about this before. the dealer has assured me that they will be getting on to Ducati UK for comparisons with other bikes. Will let you all know more in early May, although not overly happy about having to wait till then. |
If it's any consolation (and I'm guessing it isn't), my 999 stuck at 3000+ on it's way in to it's first service. Dealer came back with same response - shrug of shoulders. Unfortunately/fortunately it never repeated it for the dealer and hasn't done so for me. So, it's not the first one to do it. |
Hi there Trigger , was this on your Ullapool run at the weekend in the wet ? .......my old RGV 250 used to overrun in the wet , something to do with water vapour getting in the fuel mixture and causing detonation in the engine making it ovverrun , I don't know if the same thing could happen on a 4 stroke , where's that American bloke , he'll know :puzzled: Did you speak to Boxy (Mark) at Shirlaws or someone else ? if it was in the wet tell them , this may make a difference. Good luck |
Andy, Yeah it became a frequent problem on the Ullapool trip, but more so on the Sunday when it was dry, Ive given mark all the details, it still seems to me that its electrical/ECU orientated, as stopping removing the key and restarting provides a temporary fix |
I'm sure Boxy will do his best for you , he's in contact with both Ducati UK and JHP pretty regularly (Tony who is one of the after sales managers for Ducati UK used to work for Hackett in a previous life) and between them they can sort most problems , with something intermittent like this though it never seems to happen when you want it to :( Hope you get it sorted soon :roll: |
Trigger bring it down to Glasgow m8, Ducati Glasgow are amazing. Great Service. /ian |
Have they checked the CO2 reading when it goes into fast idle mode, if its richening it self up you would have to wonder about the temp sensors and alike. |
Update, now the ambient temperature is above 10 degC (well just up here in aberfreeze) the bike is behaving itself, so, as before, no recorded fault, no replicating the problem, nothing to be done. On advice from the dealer I have written to both the dealer and Ducati UK to register the fault, so should it happen again within a reasonable time frame, but outwith the warranty the bike will be covered. Well thats what Duk UK wrote back and said. Result..............probably not, but better than nothing, and I can get on with my summer Russ |
My 999 did this a couple of times in the colder damper weather over the winter. It was usually after a gentle cruise on the motorway and manifested itself as a racing engine when coming to a halt (you had to pull the clutch in to avoid going up the back of the car in front) or like having a cruise control that couldn't be turned off. It would stick at about 5000 rpm. It was somewhat disconcerting to say the least. I pulled everything apart but couldn't find any reason for it. As weather got warmer (and drier) the problem disappeared. I can only put it down to some kind of icing up - maybe in the throttle cable somewhere or the throttle butterflies or sensors - some dampness that intermittently froze up. A brief halt and engine stop and restart always cleared it up. |
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