SP Prices
 

One of my mates has offered me his '94 916SP as a P/X for my '93 851 + cash.......anyone know what sort of cash the SP would go for anyway. It's not mint, but it's nice from memory, probably around 20K miles......

If it's a real SP it could be worth a lot to a collector - does it have the carbon bodywork? Check out:

http://www.ducati.com/bikes/techcafe...nical&artID=21

Early 916SP has the 955cc engine. Nice bike to have...

It does depend on the condition as to what its worth, and as the old saying goes, its only worth what people are willing to pay!

The problem is that people either tend to go the newish route (ie, the latest, most expensive model THEY can afford, be it a 996/998/999 etc) or go a bit 'retro' and try to find a mint version of an older model, such as the SP (be it a 851/888/916 etc)...a lot of people seem to be going the route of older models recently.

But if its not mint, then the price if effected quite dramatically I think. I bought my mint 1995 SP for 5K. I would say, if the bike was standard then this would be a good price for a minter. However, mine did also come with loads of goodies (mag wheels, slipper clutch etc.)...so I did get a bargain. I have no doubt if I wanted to sell it in a year or two, I could get quite a bit more for it than that.

I have however seen other 916SP bikes on here advertised for less, and not sell, mainly because of their condition I guess...so...to answer your question, although it is a great bike and is a collectable item, unless it is in really good condition, or can be restored to such fairly easily, I think he would struggle to sell it privately for more than 4 -4.5K. Then again...there are always people out there looking for a collectable item who would be willing to bite his arm off?!?!?

But if you are one of those guys who will probably buy it, keep it for a while and treat it well and get it back upto a good condition over time, then the price will not drop that much more, and in fact will probably go up over time.

But all of this talk of money distracts us from the most important factor...take the thing for a test ride. If it is a true SP, then it will blow your socks off, especially when compared to the 851 you have been used to.

Race Cams, Twin injectors, Big valves, Titanium con rods, 50mm full system and a 11,500 rpm rev limit...the thing has to be ridden to be appreciated.

If you want the 916 shape in any of its guises, then In my opinion...your going to struggle to find better.

I still get confused with all this, I thought the SP was a 916, and only special wsb homogolation ones were 955, in fact even they were 916 but ready for 955 to be fitted?? Why cant things be simple?:puzzled::o

916 Strada (and later Biposta) was 916cc.

The 916 SP was the WSB homolgation model, and so got the 955cc the factory wanted.

The 916SPS was the WSB homolgation special with the 996cc engine the factory wanted.

The Fogarty replica was a WSB homolgation special needed to get the modified frame/airbox the factory wanted to use in racing.

Clear as mud???

OK...I know what you mean Paul...I'll give you my thoughts on this.

Having bought my 1995 SP I made a few enquiries to Ducati Italy to clarify exactly what model I did have.

After passing on the bikes details, I received instant confirmation that it was a 916SP.

The lady there was also kind enough to send me data sheets for both my (1995) SP model, and the next years (1996) 916SPS model.

The diferences are with the engine...

The 916 SP has a 916 engine, making 131bhp with an rpm limit of 11,500.

The 916SPS has 996 engine, making 134bhp with an rpm limit of 11,000.

The 916SP3 that is often mentioned is the equivalent of the 916R in the chart that henners has listed in the above link (scroll down a bit!)...a bike produced at the same time as the 916SP only, but fitted with a 955 'kit' to go racing, I believe in the US. Thas why a 916SP can easily be fitted with a 955 kit, as essentially it is the same bike.

mmmmmmh...now theres a thought, wheres that phone No. for Sigma!

so, to summarise, it is a 916? Just a tricked up one?

Yes...it is the most tricked up of all 916 models, hence the reason why it is actually quite collectable (well I think it is anyway!!), as the 916SPS was infact a 996.

surely the sps is more collectable, race engine componants and the right displacement n all that....:P

Don't make me laugh Paul...:lol:

Not really mate-the SP3 also has all the race components, since it WAS the bike they were racing but with a 955 overbore. As Harv has stated TI rods and valves, twin injectors, also special cams. I have ridden the bike that Harv has since it belonged to a mate of mine who now lives in Hawaii. It is a complete animal, much more fierce than a 996 and revs like a stroker. Basically I am still kicking myself as I should have kept it myself rather than selling it for him.:(

John

Nah...you made the right decision John...:cool:

But your right...I didn't know V-twins were supposed to have a power band!

I'm doing Silverstone International on the 30th May and then the GP circuit on the 7th June...can't wait to really open her up ...new pants for me please!:o

So the 955 was never used in WSB??? If it was, how was it homolgated?

Its my understanding from what I have read (and I am quite happy to be proved wrong) that the 955 was the bike Foggy rode to WSBK success in the 1994/1995 season.

As for homolagation...as I say they did indeed make some 955 variants (The SP3) for this very purpose, alongside the 916SP, but they didn't officially come to the UK for sale, I think they went mainly to the US...although you do hear of them from time to time..obvious special imports or summut.

So you do hear the term 916SP3 banted around a lot...but I think the true number of them in the UK is probably very few indeed. The reality is a lot of people think the SP is also known in other cirlces as an SP3, when infact they are different capacity machines. A genuine 916SP is quite a rare beastie nowadays...and a genuine 916SP3 even more so.

Gotcha. Why SP3? What about SP1 and SP2?

uhmmmmm?:rolleye:

I think that the SP1, SP2, SP3, refers to the model years, prior to the 916SPS and the later 996SPS

i.e.
SP1 1994 also just refered to as an SP
SP2 1995
SP3 1996
916 SPS 1997/98
996 SPS 1999
996 SPS with Ohlins forks 2000

I would definately agree with Harvs comments about the pricing.

john - doesnt the sps have ti conrods, dual injectors etc etc?

916 SPS 1997: Technical Specifications


ENGINE
Max Power: 118.8 Hp @ 9500 rpm
Max Torque: 90.8 Nm @ 6750 rpm
Bore and Stroke: 98 x 66 mm
Displacement: 996 cc
Compression Ratio: 11.5: 1
Timing System: DOCH, Desmodromic 4 valves per cylinder
Inlet Valves: 36 mm
Exhaust Valves: 30 mm
Special titanium alloy Pankl con-rods Weber-Marelli electronic injection, double injector per cylinder, 50mm throttle body
12V - 350W electrical equipment with 12 Volt 16 Ah battery
Wet sump forced lubrication, 4 liters oil
Wet, multiplates, hydraulic actuated clutch
6-speed gearbox


CHASSIS
Tubolar Steel Trellis frame
Front Fork: 43mm upside-down Ohlins
Rear Suspension: Ohlins
Front Brake: Double floating Ø 320 with 4 pistons caliper
Rear Brake: Single floating Ø 200 mm
Front Tyre: 120/70-17
Rear Tyre: 190/50-17


916 SPS 1994: Main differences from 916 Strada 1994

ENGINE
Inlet Valves: 34 mm
Exhaust Valves: 30 mm
Rev limitator: 11.500 rpm
8-plates clutch
Double injector per cylinder
50mm throttle body


CHASSIS
Front Disks: cast iron disks 5 mm thickness, light aluminium alloy hubs
Rear Suspension: Ohlins
Airbox, front mudguard and other parts in carbon fiber

It does mate-but they are SO common............:lol:

John

you sure ;)

Wet, multiplates - that's a vented clutch cover on a rainy day!:D

That's lifted direct from the link Henners posted, well the link at the bottom, so maybe Ducati think it's wet cos it uses fluid :)