Any Plasterers on here?
 

If theres any plasterers on here I need advice.

I am in the middle of doing the master bedroom up in my house. In the next week I am laying a solid oak floor which is at this moment stacked up in my living room "aclimatising"

My problem is the ceiling in the room is covered with that horrible 1970s swirly artex stuff. I hope I don't offend any artex fans here! I really want to get rid of the stuff and wanted to know the best way of doing so. I know you are not supposed to sand or scrape it as it full of asbestos. I don't think new artex is but the 70s stuff is quite nasty.

Am i better off trying to steam it off? or just plaster over it? My plastering is pretty limited only having done repairs before now. I dont fancy having to board over it as one of my mates suggested. Another mate suggested artexing over the artex but finishing it smooth instead of swirly?

I need to get it done pretty quick as it needs to dry out fully before I lay the oak boards as they will soak up any moisture and expand. I have tried a number of plasterers but either they are to busy or say they will come and never do!

Any suggestions are welcome, I have considered leaving it as it is and waiting for it to come back into fashion.

Is this the most mundane boring post ever on this site?

Martin

i'm plasterd
does that count:bouncy:

where are you?

In my spare room, Why?

I'm up in Nelson Lancashire. The town with the most uninterested plasterers anywhere.

if you said north hampshire i may be able to help-- most people have a location:puzzled:

I now have a location! Sorry bout that! :)

sorry mate cant help but i would think of reboarding and skimming me self - about a days work for a plasterer and mate

is it painted over with mat finish or silk finish emo?
and is it stuck well every were?:saint:

Thanks, what kind of money you reckon for that including materials etc? Its about 30 metre square. I have tried a few who have said they will come and give me a price and never turn up! I suppose it could be the best way to do it as I assume it could be done that way after the floor has been laid? Are you talking bout the dry line type boards with just a skim in the joints?

As you can tell I am pretty clueless when it comes to plastering.

You can take the route Monstermob suggested or you can scrape off the major high points ( pips) and then unibound it all over twice. You can then get a plasterer in to bound coat it with bounding plaster and then scim it over with finish.

Its stuck very well and its in a matt finish.

thats the one :lol:

What ever you do don't!!!!!!!!! lay that floor before you get the ceiling done. Its not the moisture that wll be your problem, but f any plaster gets onto the unprotected oak. It will send it black. You will end up with lots of little black spots all over the floor.

so right :lol::lol::lol:

:puzzled:

I have seen the spotty oak after sindrome meself you are spot on ;)

I thought you where takng the piz:)

[Edited on 23-5-2005 by Jon]

board over the artex with 3/8 plasterboard -just make sure you tack the nails into the ceiling joists not just the existing board -use galvanised plasterboard nails about 40mm long- then plaster with multifinish plaster cost around 3-400 quid for a 30msquare ceiliing around a fiver for a sheet of board -- youll need 11 sheets about four quid for a bag of plaster- youll need two or three -- a roll of scrim (for the joints) about a fiver for nails -- a stanley knife for cutting the board etc---- if you go the uni bond way then it will take longer to dry(more moisture to your boards) the boarding and plaster will be dry in a few hours-- dont forget to seal the plaster with a "mist " coat of emulsion before you paint it

oh and about a tenners worth of tea and coffee:smug:

[Edited on 23-5-2005 by monstermob 998]

Thanks I will keep the plaster well away from the oak! I would not have done it till I had it well and truly sealed (bonatech mega). Its only a couple of years ago that I layed 80 square metres of the stuff in my living room and passageway spent about 4 days sanding it to perfection only to go out to a neighbours barbecue and get horribly drunk and return home to admire my (unsealed) handiwork and spill a litre of red wine all over it! In my stupor I forgot to let my very large English Mastiff out for his toilet duties that night and he repaid me by finding his way through the barricade I had erected to keep him of the floor and took a very large wet dump bang in the middle of the floor.

I had to sand about another mm of the entire floor and can still remember the worst smell ever everytime the floor sander past over that particular section.

I can guarantee you that you wll get into a right mess trying to put up plasterboards on a ceilng if you have never done it before. It comes easy to those that know and use a deadman. can do 8'x4' sheets on my own.
But two blokwes that are complete virgins:lol::lol:

No I just can't type as fast as you. but have done plenty of artexing and plastering, like I said spot on :lol::lol::lol:

We just got off on the wrong foot with TP's corrner speed thing :lol:

Thanks guys! I need to weigh up the cost/my abilities/ time factor of it all! I keep telling myself I can put up with the artex but my girlfriend knows better and says its only a matter of time before I would get sick of looking at it. She says it makes sense to do it all in one go. However she also thinks everything will be finished by weekend!

have you offered the plasterers bangers and mash (cash)

Yes offered them all cash! The first one I met in a pub a couple of weeks ago (I was there repairing the fruit machine) he had just finished work and was talking to the barman about the plastering he had just been doing. So I went and bought him a pint and asked if he fancied doing a job for cash at any time day or night to suit him I also told him that many of the other rooms will need doing in the next few months and he could give me a price for them as well. He works for a big company of plasterers and seemed well up for a foreigner. So far he has arranged 4 different days to come and have a look and not turned up on any of them. I rung a couple more from Yellow pages and they have not been anywhere near yet.

I am surprised really as there is a lot of work here for a plasterer that wants it?

you ever thought of going on top ..?? lazy git .... :lol:

Good lad Dibble youve just given me an idea.

Anyone know anything about mirrored ceilings? :eureka:

thats sooooo wrong .. on so many levels .....


but on the plus side they are great for hiding cameras behind ..... allegedly ... cough cough ... ho hum .... :saint:

What? better than an old shoe box with a hole cut out? :D

No forget all that stuff, just whip out all your new camera equipment and start telling her what a sexychick she is. :lol::lol::lol:

New camera equipment? mine says "Cine" on the side of it!

Martin!:o

so you have been to Dibble's gaff then!

C:lol::lol:

Hi martin
If its proper artex you will be able to steam it off the only problem is what it has been painted with you may have to break the seal, you can hire a special roller that has lots of very short spikes that makes the job alittle easyer, hope this helps I hate artex to.

Chass

Martn you can only steam / strip artex that has been layed onto a previously plastered ceiling. f the artex is layed drectley onto the plasterboard, you will bugger the board up before the artex gives way.

Had my landing skimmed over. Slashed up the existing Artex first to key it and then PVA then plaster. Was done 3 years ago and is still OK