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Rattler 28-May-2005 00:05

Can a Bip seat be easily fitted to a 749R/999R?
 
I managed to fit a Bip seat to my old 996R, but can this be easily achieved on a 749R or 999R.

Don't ask me why I want to do it as I take offence easily ;) - but is it a matter of just switching the subframe and seat unit (obviously)?

Or are there other considerations for this? movement of components etc, etc.....

Anyone done this?

Ta muchly
Tim

andyb 28-May-2005 00:09

:puzzled:

Jon 28-May-2005 00:14

I think so Tim. But there might be an issue with the baby R. Its fuel tank is larger and I'm not certain if this presents a problem or not.

bolds 28-May-2005 00:28

Subframe and all seatbase bits should swap over ok but remember "R" wheels would not be homologated for biposto use being lighter forged alloy

Jon 28-May-2005 00:31

Arn't the forged lighter wheels stronger than cast wheels?

bolds 28-May-2005 00:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon
Arn't the forged lighter wheels stronger than cast wheels?

Probably but look at how thin the spokes are
and they list those wheels in the performance catalogue as mono use only:rolleye:

Rattler 28-May-2005 00:34

Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
:puzzled:

Yeh I know - I did say don't ask me why!!!

But in the spirit of openess - I need a road bike that I can occasionally take Mrs Rattler out for a spin on. She won't like it and I can quickly change it back, but I need the capability nonetheless!

And it would be a trifle churlish just to keep the ZX10R for such activities.

So as I endeavour to procure a new Ducati I need to be cognisant of such!!! ;)

Tim:frog:

Rattler 28-May-2005 00:35

Quote:

Originally posted by bolds
Quote:

Originally posted by Jon
Arn't the forged lighter wheels stronger than cast wheels?

Probably but look at how thin the spokes are
and they list those wheels in the performance catalogue as mono use only:rolleye:

Right, I'll get the misses on a diet - that should go down well!!! ;) :)

Jon 28-May-2005 00:38

How about a 749/999R combo:lol:

Bolds your probably right, I've never looked closely at the differences before

andyb 28-May-2005 00:39

You looking at a 999r ? Go on its only me your telling???

Rattler 28-May-2005 00:49

Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
You looking at a 999r ? Go on its only me your telling???

I'm looking, i'm looking!! I must say that I'm favouring the 749R over the 999R at the mo, they just seem a bit more "special" to me.

But I might just wait for the road Desmosedidicihichechithingy to come out!!!!

Now I don't reckon you'll get a Bip seat on that!!!!!! ;)

dave w 28-May-2005 01:19

Tim.... have got a black 999 Bip subframe if you need one :D

Rattler 28-May-2005 01:24

Quote:

Originally posted by dave w
Tim.... have got a black 999 Bip subframe if you need one :D

Thanks Dave - I just need to get the bike first !!!! :)

dave w 28-May-2005 01:29

Could be arranged;)

JPM 28-May-2005 02:24

I knew I knew I knew...

Does this mean the king (996R) is dead?:D

KeefyB 28-May-2005 06:39

Tim,its a piece of pee to change subframes and seat units.There are no other components to change over during the conversion.The exhaust and electrics all stay where they are.With practice it can be done in around 30-40 mins.

ttstu 28-May-2005 07:45

Long live the King!

pedro 28-May-2005 08:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Rattler
I managed to fit a Bip seat to my old 996R, but can this be easily achieved on a 749R or 999R.

Don't ask me why I want to do it as I take offence easily ;) - but is it a matter of just switching the subframe and seat unit (obviously)?

Or are there other considerations for this? movement of components etc, etc.....

Anyone done this?

Ta muchly
Tim
we fitted my old termi can to skipi's 749bip, twin seat, all parts fitted no problem but the sub frame was different from mine tim.

butch890 28-May-2005 08:53

tim,
having spoken to the guru the wheel issue IS an Issue,fit bip wheels and problem solved.
Butch

Rattler 28-May-2005 10:39

thanks for the feedback fellas
Tim

andyb 28-May-2005 13:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Rattler
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
You looking at a 999r ? Go on its only me your telling???

I'm looking, i'm looking!! I must say that I'm favouring the 749R over the 999R at the mo, they just seem a bit more "cheaper" to me.

But I might just wait for the road Desmosedidicihichechithingy to come out!!!!

Now I don't reckon you'll get a Bip seat on that!!!!!! ;)

andyb 28-May-2005 13:37

I think youll be looking at ballpark £11,000 for an 04 749r. I think you could get an 03 999r for around there and probably with the 57mm and cpu fitted.

another £3-4000 and you could be in 04 999r territory

Dont know if i like the idea of a) on the road with it, and b) pillion stuff, just my thoughts.

Shazaam! 28-May-2005 14:33

Stiffer rear spring.

Rattler 28-May-2005 15:04

Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
Quote:

Originally posted by Rattler
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
You looking at a 999r ? Go on its only me your telling???

I'm looking, i'm looking!! I must say that I'm favouring the 749R over the 999R at the mo, they just seem a bit more "cheaper" to me.

But I might just wait for the road Desmosedidicihichechithingy to come out!!!!

Now I don't reckon you'll get a Bip seat on that!!!!!! ;)


Thanks for the misquoute!!! Its not a money thing!!! ;)

andyb 28-May-2005 17:50

I wouldnt of expected it to be.............Its a ...? thing?

Rattler 28-May-2005 18:03

Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
I wouldnt of expected it to be.............Its a personal!!! ...? thing?

andyb 28-May-2005 18:21

:lol:

andyb 28-May-2005 18:25

I seiously think you would crave for more power than a 749. Im not saying any of us can really use the potential to full, but its nice to have it there. Now if some say oh buy the engine upgrade, quite frankly it will be cheaper, more reliable etc to have had the 999.

Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............

The Big Red One 28-May-2005 20:43

Should ring riders of bristol they have load of new model to get rid off going for silly money. and i mean low prices.

khu996 29-May-2005 08:19

Quote:

Originally posted by andyb

Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............

Andy, who's selling the wheels and how much (please!)? :D

iang 29-May-2005 09:19

I cannot see a problem with the wheels ( or the shock ), is it not just the manufactures/Ducati covering their backs just in case of failure.
If someone is 19 stone ( ! ) riding solo what is the difference if the rider is 11 stone and the pillion 8 stone ?

I am sort of tempted to put a biposto seat unit on my R beacause my wife is 'considering' going back on the bike again ( she said she would never go back on when we had our two young kids, just in case )

andyb 29-May-2005 10:46

Quote:

Originally posted by khu996
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb

Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............

Andy, who's selling the wheels and how much (please!)? :D

They are 999r wheels, and .....its Rob at Riverside, you know him dont you?

weeian 29-May-2005 14:01

Quote:

Originally posted by andyb

Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............

i thought the 749r is better for using on a track ??

/ian

andyb 29-May-2005 15:32

Quote:

Originally posted by weeian
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb

Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............

i thought the 749r is better for using on a track ??

/ian

Not on its side though Ian! :lol:

khu996 29-May-2005 17:28

Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
Quote:

Originally posted by khu996
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb

Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............

Andy, who's selling the wheels and how much (please!)? :D

They are 999r wheels, and .....its Rob at Riverside, you know him dont you?

Have you got a number for him mate? Do you know how much they're going for?

andyb 29-May-2005 17:53

Sorry mate ive got you mixed up with someone else.

Yeah ill give you the number on u2u

yellowisfriedegg 30-May-2005 08:47

The wheels on 749R's and 999R's are identical and are NOT suitable for carrying a pillion , this was stated by Ducati UK in an MCN roadtest

Rattler 30-May-2005 12:02

Quote:

Originally posted by yellowisfriedegg
The wheels on 749R's and 999R's are identical and are NOT suitable for carrying a pillion , this was stated by Ducati UK in an MCN roadtest

Yea but, no but - they also state that Magnesium wheels shouldn't be used for the road, but you can!!

Isn't this just some potential legal disclaimer against any sort of legal action should you get a couple of elephants going Biposto ?

Tim

Jon 30-May-2005 19:04

Tim may the torque be with you, but you won't find it on a 749R:)

electricsheep 30-May-2005 19:50

from the manual with the forged wheels

max total weight 390 kg
dry weight 193 kg
fluids 10 kg
fuel 20 kg
extra for bip 10 kg

this leaves 157 kg
which is about 24.5 stone, so if you and your other half are less than that you should be fine. however i am not an engineer


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