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aws 29-May-2005 09:42

What are the rules governing speed cameras?
 
I am thinking here about warning signs on roads where speed cameras are sited.
Anyone got any thoughts on this matter?
May have been caught doing 85 mph by a Trevelo just south of jkt 5 on the M25 - if that's what it's called.
The one with 2 or 3 white strips just in front of the box that photographs the front of the car.

Cheers

Tim

andyb 29-May-2005 10:45

The rules...........Dont speed past them!:lol:

swannymere 29-May-2005 11:40

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

aws 30-May-2005 10:44

Not helpful.
Do they have to put out signage if it's a static post?

Tim

Rushjob 30-May-2005 13:32

2 sides to it..... for the enforcement to be legal, the only thing that has to be correct is obviously the calibration & type approval of the camera and the speed limit itself.... for a motorway with a standard 70 limit it's going to be.I'm afraid.
As regards signage / visibility issues, this only really comes into play if the area the camera is located in has signed up to the hypothecation scheme - this is where revenue from fines buys more cameras.
The problem is that the hypothecation rules only relate to funding and breaching them would not make the penalty for being caught on it automatically void.
I know what you'll say...that's crap / immoral / not playing with a straight bat etc. but hey ho, this is the set of rules that our wonderful Governments over the last 15 years or so have put in place.
Sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but that is the current position.
Hope it didn't get you.... with a bit of luck it was out of film!
Andy

Scotty Monster 30-May-2005 13:48

could be worse you could ave been pulled over by a nice police man with a laser gun at 110 (allegedaly) on the A19 on sunday :(

aws 30-May-2005 16:39

I thought that these Trevelos had a digital reader and thus did not rely upon film.

Q: why then put up "Speed cameras" signs?
I am wondering if a pre-warning is, at some point within a certain radius of said box, is, actually a pre-requisite.

Tim

[Edited on 30-5-2005 by aws]

weeian 30-May-2005 17:02

i think they do have to put up some signage, i was doin about 130 down a stretch and saw a tempoary sign held up on a lampost blowing about so i nailed on the brakes and bobs your uncle there was a mobile speed van up the road, if it wasnt for that temporary sign warning me of the camera theyd have got me.

/ian

Rushjob 30-May-2005 18:32

Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once.
Throughout the UK there is no legal requirement to advertise speed checks....
Quote:

As regards signage / visibility issues, this only really comes into play if the area the camera is located in has signed up to the hypothecation scheme - this is where revenue from fines buys more cameras.
The problem is that the hypothecation rules only relate to funding and breaching them would not make the penalty for being caught on it automatically void.

The signage is used to publicise the speed check location & to try to get drivers to slow down. It also assists in prosecutions where drivers have been warned of the speed check by a sign and then have gone on to get caught.
Don't fall into the trap of confusing the Road Traffic Act with the policies of the Safety Camera Partnerships under hypothecation which are two totally different animals

chrisw 30-May-2005 19:03

Happy reading
 
http://www.nationalsafetycameras.co....20Handbook.pdf

Page 25

[Edited on 30-5-2005 by chrisw]

PDL 04-Jun-2005 00:25

The rules about speed cameras are really simple.

1. Know your fav roads
2. Know where the speed cameras are on your fav roads
3. Slow down for speed camera (unless bike can do over 170 mph)
4. Speed up after speed camera

I think that s it.

ducati996dude 04-Jun-2005 11:18

Am I being stupid here, If the camera is pointing at you, it can't read your plate? Or are the new ones pointing from behind? What about mobile vans, they are also pointing at you so how do they get your reg?

Paul (probably being a tw@t)

andyb 04-Jun-2005 11:44

At the moment the rules are plain to see, You speed, you get caught, you get prosecuted!

If you want to argue the debate of whether this camera or that policy is right, then fair enough, and you may even have a point in some cases. But the above still applies!

I guess its just a way of life that we seem to complain once were caught out, looking for some minor loop hole or injustice.

I find the bullish talk somewhat tainted with bravado, and at the least irresponsible.

clockwork orange 04-Jun-2005 12:11

Just a thought -

If we all (and I do mean all) stick to the limits for one month, how many police forces / camera partnerships would go bust ????

That said, the simple solution is not to speed - then you don't have to worry about getting caught. Overstating the obvious I know, but a lot of drivers/riders out there don't seem to have realised this. Tis quite amusing watching a long queue developing behind me in 40mph stretches :P


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