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Campo 13-Apr-2013 11:41

Kill switch again
 
I've just had another look at my kill switch and if the kill switch is in off position before the main power switch is turned on the bike won't start which is telling me the kill switch is still connected but once the engine is running the kill switch will not kill the engine. Anyone have any ideas as to what could be wrong? Any suggestions will be appreciated

Shane

dunlop0_1 13-Apr-2013 12:32

Are you still using the key and barrel or a switch?

Campo 13-Apr-2013 12:52

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Originally Posted by dunlop0_1
Are you still using the key and barrel or a switch?

Just a switch

dunlop0_1 13-Apr-2013 13:22

So the bike will only stop when the ignition switch is off. Lecy aint my strong point but it may be possible that the ignition relay when energised is staying latched in even when the kill switch is turned off.

Change the yellow relay for a start.

Campo 13-Apr-2013 14:41

Yep bike will only stop when ignition is switched off. I will try the relay I'm just gonna have to do a process of elimination I think.

SeeleyG50 13-Apr-2013 15:38

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Originally Posted by Campo
Yep bike will only stop when ignition is switched off. I will try the relay I'm just gonna have to do a process of elimination I think.


Good plan ;)

skidlids 13-Apr-2013 23:56

The Kill switch shouldn't have anything to do with the Ignition Relay.

Normally it is wired so that one side of the kill switch is wired to +12v from the fuse box and then when in the ON position it puts that 12 volts feed onto the Coils and Ignition modules, so when its in the OFF position there is no voltage to the coils or ignition modules hence stopping the bike running.

Campo 14-Apr-2013 00:12

If I switch the ignition on without starting the bike up I can hear the fuel pump turning on and off when I flick the kill switch on and off. But if I start the bike up the kill switch has no affect.

skidlids 14-Apr-2013 00:19

That's odd as the same 12 volts that goes from the fuse to the kill switch also goes to the fuel pump and therefore the fuel pump should only be controlled by the Ignition Switch and not the Kill switch
Sounds like the ignition On feed is going to the Coils and ignition Modules and the Kill switch ON feed is going to the fuel pump
So they are the wrong way round

Campo 14-Apr-2013 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidlids
That's odd as the same 12 volts that goes from the fuse to the kill switch also goes to the fuel pump and therefore the fuel pump should only be controlled by the Ignition Switch and not the Kill switch
Sounds like the ignition On feed is going to the Coils and ignition Modules and the Kill switch ON feed is going to the fuel pump
So they are the wrong way round


Yeah is strange even when it's running I can hear the kill switch cutting off the fuel pump but the bike keeps running.
I think I will just take it to someone who knows what their doing whith electrics
Thanks anyway for the suggestions

skidlids 14-Apr-2013 17:15

Even without the fuel pump running there will be enough fuel in the float bowls to keep it running for a while.

Normally when i run them I take 12 volts from the battery to the Ignition switch(be it the original with a key or a toggle switch). Out of that Ignition switch I split in to two each with a inline fuse, one feeds the right hand switch gear and the other the fuel pump. the one to the right switch gear goes to the common between the start button and the kill switch so pressing the button feeds it to the start solenoid and turning the kill switch to run puts it on the coils and ignition modules - simples

Campo 14-Apr-2013 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidlids
Even without the fuel pump running there will be enough fuel in the float bowls to keep it running for a while.

Normally when i run them I take 12 volts from the battery to the Ignition switch(be it the original with a key or a toggle switch). Out of that Ignition switch I split in to two each with a inline fuse, one feeds the right hand switch gear and the other the fuel pump. the one to the right switch gear goes to the common between the start button and the kill switch so pressing the button feeds it to the start solenoid and turning the kill switch to run puts it on the coils and ignition modules - simples


Thanks Kev. I have been in contact with Andy turner today and he said there is two looms on the bike. The original one which sill has all the old connector blocks around the bike for lights etc that I don't need anyway. And he said there is another one a race loom that u made him. Because I don't need any of the road gear on there I would like to get rid of all the stuff not needed anymore and just get a single race loom sorted.


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