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Twinfan 20-Jul-2005 11:48

2005 performance part check please?
 
Can someone with a 2005 performance parts brochure check this part number out for me please?

96844603B

I think it's the kit to convert an '03 or '04 bike to the '05 box section swingarm?

Thanks in advance!

JPM 20-Jul-2005 11:55

That'll be cheap then, nearly a grand for the swingarm alone

beancounter 20-Jul-2005 11:58

Why would you want or need to change a swingarm ?

Just curious like...

Twinfan 20-Jul-2005 11:59

Just cos they look cool :D

I think the kit is around £800 or so, but I just want to check the part number before I ring a few places for prices.

beancounter 20-Jul-2005 12:01

Bonkers !

But it's your cash..........

Jools 20-Jul-2005 12:03

Can't help with the question but I know that a couple of folks have done this.

Just curious about what it's all for? Seems a pretty expensive mod to me when there will be absolutely no performance benefit - after all, can anybody truly say their riding capabilities have outstripped the performance envelope of a pre-2005 swingarm?

So if it's just cosmetic, the question is still why? After all, a pre-2005 bike with this mod might look like a 2005 bike, after you've spent a fortune on it to make it look like one, but it will still be a pre-2005 bike and have the resale value of a pre-2005 bike.

Doesn't it make more sense to PX to a 2005 bike and put the money you'd spend on mods towards that?

chillo 20-Jul-2005 12:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Jools
Doesn't it make more sense to PX to a 2005 bike and put the money you'd spend on mods towards that?

not with the depreciation we are all enjoying it won't be!:barfy::sniff:

JPM 20-Jul-2005 12:42

Speaking from experience the swingarm is more than 800 quid, and then add the VAT, you'll need new swingarm bearings also, as they can get damaged upon removal, and they're about 60 quid, again speaking from experience.

The only benefits I see for swapping the s/arm apart from cosmetically is possibly several other exhaust options that were available to the 2004 R models and later

Twinfan 20-Jul-2005 12:55

Hey, don't start having a pop! I'm after a price for the conversion. Didn't say I was getting it done did I? ;)

I'm planning on keeping the bike for a while, so I'm just weighing up options :)

Wylie1 20-Jul-2005 13:36

I have to agree with the opinion that it is a waste of money, but lots of people spend large amounts of money on bikes/ upgrades they either don't need or won't benefit from (running for cover :saint: )

After the last 5-6 months you've endured TF, I think you deserve whatever make's your biking life happy.

Dibble 20-Jul-2005 13:41

Personaly TF I'd go for some AP Racing front calipers, they look super cool and will also put your mind at rest ... just an idea ....

I wouldnt know an 05 999 swingarm from one on a Blade .....

TP 20-Jul-2005 13:48

If you're going to keep it a while mate I'd consider things in this order, bearing in mind that I didn't and went straight into spending money in the engine on the 996 but if I had my time again I'd do this ...

- Suspension tailored for you
- Riding instruction (to get the most out of it)
- Exhaust (to hear the lovely sounds :D )
- Brakes
- Engine
- Engine
- Engine
- Engine

:D

With non-performing bling dispersed equally throughout those options until your wallet bursts!

Ducnow 20-Jul-2005 13:53

Quote:

Originally posted by Twinfan
Just cos they look cool :D


Yeah, they do :D:D

Real McCoy 20-Jul-2005 13:54

swinger around £1000

modify exaust to clear new swinger , (if termis fitted) £200 ish

hack down and repaint rh fairing to clear swinger/ exaust (£ priceless)

looks better , yes

any performance gains , non :D

LesPaul 20-Jul-2005 14:18

Just an idea TF, how about having the original swing arm powdercoated in black?
I was going to do that but sold the 749 and brought a S4r instead :D

Darren

Gareth 20-Jul-2005 14:23

Twinfan....recent posts would suggest you are back on the road at long last.... I may have missed it...what was the outcome of your experience?

Twinfan 20-Jul-2005 14:25

OK, OK you've convinced me. I won't bother. I quite like the look of the standard swingarm to be honest, and I agree there are better things to spend cash on.

Quote:

With non-performing bling dispersed equally throughout those options until your wallet bursts!

:lol: Love that TP! I've got the open clutch cover, rearsets, carbon exhaust heat shield and custom paint job all sorted at the moment :D

Quote:

- Suspension tailored for you
- Riding instruction (to get the most out of it)
- Exhaust (to hear the lovely sounds )
- Brakes
- Engine

Suspension is great as it is to be honest. Standard settings on my 749S really seem to suit me. I'll leave them as they are until I feel otherwise.

Riding instruction is something I keep meaning to do. The Ron Haslam Race School is on my list.

Exhaust is sorted - assymetric Termis are on their way :D

Brakes - I'll see how my new standard stuff fares, then take it from there.

Engine - serviced as needed is great for me. I don't need any more power.

TP 20-Jul-2005 14:27

Looks like it's bling all the way then!!

I'd suggest carbon, billet and titanium as the dressage of choice :D

JPM 20-Jul-2005 14:28

Be interested to know who did the "custom paint job"

Twinfan 20-Jul-2005 14:29

Quote:

Twinfan....recent posts would suggest you are back on the road at long last.... I may have missed it...what was the outcome of your experience?

I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you ;)

Twinfan 20-Jul-2005 14:30

Quote:

Be interested to know who did the "custom paint job"

The guy who does the Renegade BSB/WSB bikes is doing it via Ducati Manchester (who are rebuilding my bike).

JPM 20-Jul-2005 14:32

Mike then, Rage Designs, mate of mine, should of gone direct and avoid paying D/Mcr's cut he's only down the road

Twinfan 20-Jul-2005 14:34

Doh! Didn't know that. It's only a small amount of work so it shouldn't be too expensive. I'd be gutted if I'd just ordered a £1000+ full on race rep though!

JPM 20-Jul-2005 14:39

That's the ball park for that kind of work these days... OUCH!!!

Does a good job though to be fair, not the quickest turn around as he's always mad busy doing WSB and BSB bikes this year plus various dealers work

KeefyB 20-Jul-2005 19:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Twinfan
Can someone with a 2005 performance parts brochure check this part number out for me please?

96844603B

I think it's the kit to convert an '03 or '04 bike to the '05 box section swingarm?

Thanks in advance!
Yes it is,however,there is a footnote stating the swingarm will not match the exhuast kits upto my04.(I guess they are talking 2-1-2 systems here???!!!)The fairing will have to be modified too.

Twinfan 20-Jul-2005 22:38

Cheers Keefy. I think it'll mean all exhausts, including the assymetrics?

I've given up on the idea :lol:

guest1 20-Jul-2005 22:46

"(red square)749/749s-999/999s<=MY04 - 999R<=MY03 749 Dark

This swingarm cannot be matched with the exhaust kits for 749/999<=MY04 of this catalog. The original fairings of 749/999 MY03/MY04 and the ones shown in this catalog should be modified using the suitable template supplied with the kit."

So that means?

Twinfan 21-Jul-2005 11:00

Means all exhausts need to be modded, and the fairing trimmed. I can't be bothered with any of that, especially now I've bought Termis!

JPM 21-Jul-2005 11:05

TF so what is the outcome with your bike then? is it being repaired/replaced? and when do you expect to be back on the road?

andyb 21-Jul-2005 11:10

Are we not missing something here? Why are Ducati doing a kit to modify from 03 swingarm to the later one? Are they making an admission they got it wrong? Is this a link to the depreciation thing?

Twinfan 21-Jul-2005 12:29

I think they're doing it for gullible suckers who want the latest bling :D

JPM - U2U'd you.

andyb 21-Jul-2005 12:34

Put me in for one then please! :lol::lol:

Straniero 23-Jul-2005 18:43

Ducati Race swing arm
 
FFWIW - the Ducati Performance swing arm is slightly lighter than, but looks very similar to the item fitted to 04-05 bikes - it comes complete with all the bolts, nuts etc, new bearings and even a carbon chain guard. It costs around £900 + vat which relative to other Ducati parts is reasonable. Because it is a part destined for racers the bits included, instructions and extra freebies are much better that you get with the normal road stuff - at least that's what my dealer told me.
Of course it won't improve performance on the road or even for a track day rider however it looks a lot better than that horrible spindlly little thing that Ducati fitted to earlier bikes and have now decided not to - I've fitted one and I am very happy - £900 is the equivalent to a few carbon bits and some shiny metal things which we all adorn our bikes with and also do absolutely nothing but just look good.
If we bought things solely on the basis of function we would'nt all be riding Ducati's - we'd all be on ER500 or some other boring, cheap and economical bike that Which Magazine recommends - My advise - contrary to everyone else is ... if you like one, want one ....then buy one .... you pays your money and you takes your choice !
Changing the brake calipers .... now that is a waste of money ... the Brembo ones are perfectly good .... oops there I go ... now I'm at it !!http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/xm...ilies/sing.gif

swannymere 23-Jul-2005 22:32

:saint:Spill the beans-what was the outcome?-WE SHOULD BE TOLD!:devil:


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